Experienced Groundie Rates

[topchippyles]

11 minutes ago, Sviatoslav Tulin said:

OK, so... 150 minus minimum 40 in tax, possible transport, climbing gear, PPE, and so on so 90 left or bit less🙄, my good friend in Leeds have that in local LIDL, Plus she babysitting few dogs on weekend and one private house cleaning once per week, so she have about 650 per week, no expense, paid holiday iam in shock 😳

If they sub on cis tax is 20% 

[topchippyles]

4 minutes ago, Paddy1000111 said:

It would be £150+Vat. No-one would go and work as a climber with kit, freelance for £125. That's groundie rates. 

 

1 minute ago, Mark Bolam said:

You wouldn’t be anywhere near the VAT threshold on £150/day freelance though?

Spot on mark 

[topchippyles]

5 minutes ago, Paddy1000111 said:

It would be £150+Vat. No-one would go and work as a climber with kit, freelance for £125. That's groundie rates. 

You vat registered paddy ? 

[Paddy1000111]

£150 a day sounds right from what I have seen. That's assuming an 8:30-4:30 (9-5 eqv) with a normal lunch break etc. They would be on your insurance and you would usually be using your rigging etc. £180-£200 for the premier league guys with their rigging equipment and that's including VAT as they usually have their own company so it's on their books and do "freelance" to help others out and have a day without the shite that goes with working for yourself. The Premier guys are shit hot though. I've groundied for some of them on some massive jobs and they're quick as hell. Balsy on their rigging (taking big picks) but it's their kit so who cares. 

 

4 minutes ago, topchippyles said:

You vat registered paddy ? 

I'm not no. Haven't hit the threshold yet and don't see the point. Customer pays more, I earn less. I can give a more competitive quote being off VAT and the money that I pocket from the difference between the +VAT and the off VAT more than makes up for the fact I can't "Claim back" VAT. Avoiding it like the plague tbh. 

Edited May 14, 2021 by Paddy1000111

[Sviatoslav Tulin]

4 minutes ago, topchippyles said:

If they sub on cis tax is 20% 

My bad, here in Ireland is 30%.What about social insurance in UK?Or subbies its free from it? 

[Paddy1000111]

2 minutes ago, Sviatoslav Tulin said:

Subbies its free from it? 

Depends on if you're sold trader or LTD tbh.  A good accountant can keep you almost tax free up until the late 40k mark 

Edited May 14, 2021 by Paddy1000111

[eggsarascal]

8 minutes ago, topchippyles said:

If they sub on cis tax is 20% 

I don't know where 40% came from above, I also don't know where a construction industry scheme comes into tree work. I'd guess some tree work on construction sites could fall under CIS?

[topchippyles]

2 minutes ago, Paddy1000111 said:

Depends on if you're sold trader or LTD tbh.  A good accountant can keep you almost tax free up until the late 40k mark 

Spot on with all the allowance for kit you buy 

[Paddy1000111]

1 minute ago, topchippyles said:

Spot on with all the allowance for kit you buy 

There's a huge list for not just kit and fuel but phones, travel, meetings, all sorts. My accountant pays for himself about 10x over by the end of the tax year! Even the silly little things like daily allowances for lunch and weird allowances for newspapers and stuff

Edited May 14, 2021 by Paddy1000111

[Mr. Squirrel]

4 minutes ago, Paddy1000111 said:

£180-£200 for the premier league guys with their rigging equipment and that's including VAT

You’ll not be seeing me turn up with all my rigging gear and saws for 200 inc. VAT.  
You’re talking about thousands in kit and 15 years of experience for what, £80 more than the college kids with his cross cutting tickets and no work ethic? Nae chance.