Racist Gardens

[scotspine1]

31 minutes ago, Big J said:

They may be at one end of the cultural sensitivity spectrum, and perhaps that isn't so healthy. But you're certainly at the other extreme, and I'd say that's equally problematic. A happy medium isn't a bad thing.

 

There is nothing wrong with highlighting historical issues relating to culture, race and imperialism, all of which inform our current situation and many of which don't bear up well under 21st century scrutiny. 

 

I'd say that by reacting to this interview with James Wong in the way that you have suggests you were looking for something to be offended about. 

 

You’ve gone from asserting,  “this isn’t about race” to conceding that point then fully immersing yourself in the race debate within a couple of posts.

 

You see how easily you were drawn into their damaging narrative. 
 

It’s naive and gullible people like you that are easily manipulated then weaponised by the likes of James Wong in order to amplify his toxic message. 
 

 

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[skyhuck]

We should celebrate the fact that so many of us are now wealthy enough to have a garden and enjoy gardening. The heritage of “gardening” is those in the past who were the elite, yes by our modern standards they may have became wealthy in ways we no longer approve of. But so what, it happened, bitching about it now will change nothing. All countries and cultures did bad things in the past. I fail to see why any of their modern population should be held accountable?

 

[scotspine1]

3 hours ago, Big J said:

If we fail to take heed of our past we run the risk of repeating the same mistakes. There is nothing racist about taking about race and its historical context.

 

 

Ok,  so you're now contending that past and current horticulture practices need work in the area of race. If you’d like to clarify. Which practices are you referring to? 

 

 

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[scotspine1]

"Absolutely U.K. gardening has racism baked into its DNA" 

 

That statement regardless of how he attempts to justify afterwards is implicitly directed at the majority of U.K. gardeners who happen to be native Britons. He is attempting to lecture to these people by exploiting his position of influence.

 

The reason you know this is because he was specifically attacking U.K. gardening which is where you'll find the majority made up of native British people because native British people make up the majority of the population. His pathetic attempts at crying racism then centre around an absurd semantics based argument about the use of, 'native' and 'heritage'. Seeking to corrupt and subvert their meaning he fails miserably because he doesn't have the intellect or foresight to realise it was a ridiculous argument in the first place. 

 

He is an intellectually and morally bankrupt fool seeking to sow racial division where there was none. 

 

 

 

[skyhuck]

5 minutes ago, Big J said:

 Like the accident of the location of your birth gives you the supreme right to live in a place.

 

 

Presumably you think the Australian aborigines, rain forest tribes, the Native Americans, etc, etc, should shut up and stop whinging?

[scotspine1]

39 minutes ago, Big J said:

Like the accident of the location of your birth gives you the supreme right to live in a place. 

 

Do the Palestinians have a homeland? 
 

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[spudulike]

I don't see the problem as long as you plant flowers of all colours!

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

On 28/04/2021 at 17:19, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

I’m gonna have to see if I can find the dipshit research paper about urban canopy cover and white privilege now....

 

I genuinely snorted at the blatant bang wag honing (auto correct ‘got me’ there, but I’ll leave it as is) of the (so called) academic who put her name to it....

 

I ‘s’pose that YouTube cartoon about the black walnut is to be seen (and laughed at) no more....

 

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There we are...  Found it!

 

How "systemic racism" affects trees in your city.  

 

 

 

Edited April 30, 2021 by kevinjohnsonmbe

[Tippin Alaybye]

Just  installed a non white tit box on this poplar of colour

Edited April 30, 2021 by Tippin Alaybye

[trigger_andy]

 
Having a conversation about race and racism are two completely different things. 
 
In much the same way that talking about sex doesn't mean you're talking about sexual abuse.
 
Most countries have an uncomfortable past, but the UK is very unwilling to talk about it's more serious transgressions. I don't think that that is the case in this instance, hence my belief that the use of the word racism is misguided.

That’s noting more than false equivalence.