Best knot for temp joining 2 ropes??

[Haironyourchest]

Scaffold knot/double fisherman is good for rope strength retention, but they Doo tighten up savage. I made round ended pins from 10mm galvanized cuphead bolts, just a smooth metal rod basically. Work it into the knot before dressing, pull it out when done, and it leaves a cavity, way easier to until after loading. I don't know if this will damage your rope or not, the way you are joining ropes, as my system involves a thimble with a link of chain welded on, do it's a bit different

[Khriss]

1 hour ago, naturarbo said:

that expression is from later???

 

The ground crew definately used rope to guide and hangar the aircraft. ( DO NOT touch the rope until it touches the ground! - Electrostatic discharge! ) but not to tie it down. K

[Dan Maynard]

Reef knots roll, wouldn't use one of those for anything serious.

I can always remember the bowline, what about just putting the two loops onto a steel carabiner if you don't like the rope on rope?

Zeppelin bend is good and I've used it but not enough to always remember it.

[Andrew McEwan]

8 minutes ago, Dan Maynard said:

Reef knots roll, wouldn't use one of those for anything serious.

I can always remember the bowline, what about just putting the two loops onto a steel carabiner if you don't like the rope on rope?

Zeppelin bend is good and I've used it but not enough to always remember it.

That's why the reef knot is used in the middle of a double fishermans, mega secure yet easy to undo especially with a shackle in it if needed

[drinksloe]

Cheers folks plenty to think about and practice.

 

Aye did think about putting a shackle in between the bowlines but never had any on me at the time.

 

Cheers again, like the sound off the reef knot and double fisherman's.

 

To be honest I'll probably treat myself to a new rigging rope so I don't need to tie the knots.

[daltontrees]

Zep bend is the one. You'll never untie a loaded fishermans. Reef OK but not designed to be heavily loaded.

 

[Andrew McEwan]

Which is why the fishermans isn't loaded Jules, the reef knot in the centre (and shackle if worried) takes the load, the fishermans either side stops it rolling or pulling through,  and also mean it can be moved over things or pass obstacles with less problems if it snags unlike a zep or any of the bends.

[daltontrees]

17 minutes ago, Andrew McEwan said:

Which is why the fishermans isn't loaded Jules, the reef knot in the centre (and shackle if worried) takes the load, the fishermans either side stops it rolling or pulling through,  and also mean it can be moved over things or pass obstacles with less problems if it snags unlike a zep or any of the bends.

Like this?

[openspaceman]

6 hours ago, daltontrees said:

Zep bend is the one. You'll never untie a loaded fishermans. Reef OK but not designed to be heavily loaded.

 

Yes even bowlines get hard to untie after being loaded by machine pulling, which is why I used to set up a sheepshank round them. I have also needed to cut out an alpine butterfly as I couldn't undo it

7 minutes ago, Andrew McEwan said:

Which is why the fishermans isn't loaded Jules, the reef knot in the centre (and shackle if worried) takes the load, the fishermans either side stops it rolling or pulling through,  and also mean it can be moved over things or pass obstacles with less problems if it snags unlike a zep or any of the bends.

That sounds worth a try, just single fishermans or still double?

[daltontrees]

I used an alpine butterfly on a rope that was being used to winch a tree over. Took me 10 minutes and a marlin spike to untie it.

 

I can't picture the sheepshank bowline combo.