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6 minutes ago, Big J said:

Agreed, but as you pointed out, the Brits were more successful in their empire building exploits, so by extension had a far greater impact in the development of India and the African subcontinent than any other nation. Having reaped the benefit of those exploits, collectively and historically, the country has a responsibility to acknowledge that impact. Or you could divorce yourself from reality and be like Jacob Rees Mogg and say that the concentration camps in the Boer Wars were there for the protection of the people in them! ? ?

Dont forget just how many viruses We took to far shores also, J,  wiped a lot of societies out..... Ummm yes. K

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Just now, Khriss said:

Dont forget just how many viruses We took to far shores also, J,  wiped a lot of societies out..... Ummm yes. K

I assume you're including the Spanish and Portuguese here? I could be wrong but I think they impacted far more people than the Brits did in this regard?

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Just now, Big J said:

What I'm saying is that we shouldn't be quite so quick to look down our noses at other cultures because they don't adhere to our cultural or moral norms.

I dont think being repulsed at a people who rip the skin off a living animal and leaving it in a pile of others to die a slow death is a cultural or moral norm. Its basic humanity. 

 

4 minutes ago, Big J said:

and also to be cognisant of the fact that our culture has plenty to be ashamed of in our not to distant history.

I think all cultures do. But with so many examples and lessons throughout the world's history there really is no reason to repeat the same mistakes. Its also other country's moral duty, maybe via UN, to point out to country's that voluntarily continue down a path is is obviously abhorrent to the rest of the world that its simply no longer acceptable.

 

10 minutes ago, Big J said:

That can't be something that is simply legislated against though, as it requires a cultural shift to avoid the industry being pushed underground. 

Maybe, or maybe not. But I think we'll see a significant step-chance in the way China operates if there is enough of an outcry once this C-19 has run its course. And about time too, we cannot and should not keep our heads in the sand any longer.

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one of the main reasons that live meat markets exist is due to lack of refrigeration to keep meat healthy .......we do the same   here with crab and lobster !!

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5 minutes ago, devon TWiG said:

one of the main reasons that live meat markets exist is due to lack of refrigeration to keep meat healthy .......we do the same   here with crab and lobster !!

True but that argument falls flat in massive cities like Wuhan. It’s not the dark ages there.

out in the vast Chinese countryside it is a valid argument since they still live in mud huts!

Posted
1 minute ago, Richard 1234 said:

True but that argument falls flat in massive cities like Wuhan. It’s not the dark ages there.

out in the vast Chinese countryside it is a valid argument since they still live in mud huts!

it is a cultural / tradition  thing I guess and suspect electricity is a recent thing .  

Posted
21 minutes ago, devon TWiG said:

it is a cultural / tradition  thing I guess and suspect electricity is a recent thing .  

True.
Having walked round a few of them when living there they are vile places and need to be stamped out if not everywhere certainly in these big towns and cities 

Posted
2 hours ago, 5 shires said:

Anyway enough of all this disagreement and back to the point in question..who’s going to work today? Well not me as since this past week I seem to be the only one in my close who has been to work all week my garden is looking shit...you can tell who hasn’t been to work by just looking at how tidy the gardens are and all the fencing what has been painted...I got today to catch up.

No more chinese takeaways for you then musch ?

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