Ranger Adblue Issues?

[PeteB]

I got the jist!

[Ratman]

Its still registering a amount, i.e 67% which suggests there is continuity and power to the sender/ECU, unless this is a default/dead error reading?! I’m still leaning towards an ECU/Software fault.... A quicker and easier and cheaper check would be to swap out or try a known good/new ECU, code it in to your truck and see what happens!
As i’ve said before though..... all “technicians” these days just go off what the laptop says, and the laptop gets its info from the ECU which in turn being “the brain” the source will never show/blame itself...... [emoji849][emoji849][emoji849] keep us posted Pete [emoji106]
Seems as though Ford is regaining its old name again.....
“Fix Or Repair Daily”

[Mark Bolam]

Sorry Pete, couldn’t resist!

 

 

[PeteB]

I've nearly forgot that about this, but, it is still with them. The last I heard, Ford sent out a field specialist and in a test, they got it to measure 100% with Ford badged AdBlue but only 67% with Esso badged AdBlue.... but the ingredients listed on the pot were the same. So, it is still in the garage while they collectively scratch. That's three months now it has been away. 

[PeteB]

Got to say, the garage had the ford people give their best opinion but went into lockdown.....the other Ranger with the dented front went into a spot to be fixed, got a Seat Leon as a loaner. The said to collect her today. Unfortunately,  they gone into lockdown and it is a few days away from being ready.  The motoring gods and me don't align....

[Mick Dempsey]

It’s become a bit of a long running soap.

 

Maybe Ford are just hoping you die of old age.

[AngrySquirrel]

On 10/12/2019 at 08:50, PeteB said:

My GreenMech towtug is a 3.2 Auto Ranger. In use for close on 18 months and done 82k. Okay, I tow a lot, often big loads and long trips - mainly on the cruise control. Upto recent history, I was fairly anal about using Shell V Power etc, serviced by a Ford spot when needed and Adblue was either of the forecourt or from a GreenMech dealer. As a measure - Motorway services charge more for a ten litre than an AG dealer does for 20!

 

No one could tell me what average Adblue usage is so I have no comparison - but, with a long trip towing 3 tonne to Scotland and back, it would really use the stuff and I would seem to get through 20 litres in a few thousand miles. Other times, it may be a couple of months before any more was needed. Recently, I ran the clock down to less than 200 miles to go before 'no restart', filled it with 20 litres and away again. Ran the clock down to 140miles then another 20 litres (the gap was about 2500 miles mixed driving). The system should reset but this time, on restart, it said 605 before no restart. This went down to 142 between Glasgow and Carlisle. I tried to get more in but it would only take about 4 litres. I got it into my garage some 800 miles late with it still reading 142 - it actually rose to 160 on the day I took it in.

 

After much head scratching, testing and emails to and fro, Ford say that the tank internals may have been damaged by me from using the wrong grade of Adblue. More so, no warranty is available as it is older than one year and more than 60k! You may remember the last Ranger I had was a friday nighter too!

 

Anyone heard of Adblue issues in Rangers or the wrong grade of Adblue? Ford relationship centre and going to get a request for clarification....

 

 

Edited April 26, 2020 by AngrySquirrel

[Ratman]

 

 

Its not fords engine, its a PSA developed engine. The add-ons and auxiliaries, electronics etc all play a part on the engines performances etc so oil types/grades can differ between brands/manufacturers.

[donnk]

On 20/12/2019 at 08:45, Jamie Jones said:

The Rodeo was a great vehicle... but the D-Max is different. The also seemed to be a change of attitude when the D-Max can on the market with manufactures issues. Isuzu UK wasn’t interested in sorting them out and the dealers seemed to take the same approach.

I had a D-Max 2.5 Utah... the dealer was crap from start to finish. I had my brand new vehicle from the Mid Wales Dealer David Taylor Garages.

went to collect in the agreed day only to find out that the vehicle I had chosen in they yard (One that was already in stock) was then sold to someone else.

I then had to wait for a replacement vehicle and again that wasn’t ready on the collection day.. I got loads of rubbish about it being other people fault. The vehicle was then rushed through the PDI (that’s if they did it) and the extras was fitted on really badly.

boot line cracked. The wrong electrical connectors for the tow bar. They also cut out the reversing light wires. Couldn’t get the bumper back on straight. When the vehicle was returned to have things fixed and a new boot liner. The canopy top wasn’t put back straight a the bumper was still miss aligned. I asked for the dealer principle to give me a call on the on going issues and never heard back.

I paid an independent to do the issues out in the end because it was another two hour round trip.

After three months I found out that they had not cleared the finance on my trade in vehicle and I had to make a number of requests to get this done only to be given a number of lies. Eventually at the four month stage I had to give them till the end of the day to get the trade in vehicle finance cleared of court proceeding would be issued that night.

when the vehicle had an electrical issue and broke down they would only recover the vehicle back the the dealer where it was purchased and not the next nearest dealer. At this stage the relationship had totally broken down the the dealer and I had no faith that their mechanics could do anything more complicated than change the windscreen wipers.

After a short conversation with authorised recovery company that I didn’t want the vehicle to go to that dealer and why. They refused to pick the vehicle up.

i had to pay an independent garage to collect my vehicle and repair it.

So the warranty was not worth the paper it was written on.

i also had taken various matters up with Isuzu UK and they weren’t interested and were very unhelpful in everything I took up with them.

I had made a number of postings on the internet about the problems and the dealer rang me up and threatened to sue me for slander? after a long discussion he realised it was all true and offered a way forward. He had made some promises in how he was going to rebuild the relationship one was for the engine Ecuador’s to have the update and the other was for a 36k free service.

I have never wanted anything for nothing as this was not what it was about and made comments to that effect in relation to the free service.

I was told that if I piped in the evidence would be done free of charge while I waited.. I tried to get this done on two occasions the dealership wouldn’t entertain this and said there was a charge for having this done and it would have to be booked in with a couple of weeks notice. As I wasn’t getting anywhere I rang back on both occasions asking for the dealer principle to give me a call back.. Unsurprisingly I never had a call back. 

The dealer principles promises were never honoured.

The Izusu 2.5 D-Max suffered from issues where it regens too often and dumps fuel in the oil and blows the engine up.. Isuzu also doesn’t cover this under warranty for some reason. 

My truck truck started doing the regen far to often and although the oil level wasn’t rising It wasn’t worth the risk of keeping it.

So it had to go and got traded in at the three year stage with only about 38-39,000 on the clock.

The 2.5 always struggled to pull off with a trailer on a slight hill and I would often have to use the low ratio gears.

The new D-Max’s are only a 1.9 engine and that is never going to last as a towing vehicle. I also understand that these also suffer similar issues and Isuzu are still no better on the warranty taking to other locals who have the new vehicle.

I won’t have another Isuzu because of the Vehicle, Isuzu UK lack of warranty and the dealer broke more promises than plates at a free wedding.

should have just put that twat in small claims for a nice lump. The fuck people about becuase they know folks wont do anything about it and they dont care.

[donnk]

On 29/02/2020 at 19:58, PeteB said:

I feel sorry for the technicians at Shepshed Ford, they done everything that Ford have told them to and that has taken the time. I understand that things break down and workshop's cost etc. But it is devilishly frustrating and time consuming! My job revolves about towing GreenMech wood chipper products up and down and having a ropey old thing or getting a very expensive rental to do my work is a PITA!

if it was me, and the motor was out of warranty. I'd have the adblue system turned off electronically and forget about it.

 

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