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10 minutes ago, wicklamulla said:

brilliant, but if something fails you will most likely not have the time to unclip so i'd rather something that will disconnect if/when it all 'goes wrong' as i do not want to be struggling with 200kg of wood hanging off my strop.  The clamping yer legs around the stem is a great idea and i do that from time to time.

Trust me, with enough practice and adrenaline you can undo it quick enough.

  I’m talking from 22 years climbing experience doing all the daft things, I try and advise others now not to.

i was taught to cut with a saw not on a strop, and no too handles either.

  It was a big screwgate tied to my harness with about 8” of blue string.

  No cutting and holding or 1 hand swash buckling.

  Everything was either free fall or break cuts. If something got away from you, it was clip saw back on and grab branch and trust me if you dropped the saw I’d be out a job.

  When you do something enough it’s second nature.

  All the daft things are done in your first few years, as the years go by and you get more sawdust down your back and baws you do less swinging about and stunts.

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7 minutes ago, Stephen Blair said:

Trust me, with enough practice and adrenaline you can undo it quick enough.

  I’m talking from 22 years climbing experience doing all the daft things, I try and advise others now not to.

i was taught to cut with a saw not on a strop, and no too handles either.

  It was a big screwgate tied to my harness with about 8” of blue string.

  No cutting and holding or 1 hand swash buckling.

  Everything was either free fall or break cuts. If something got away from you, it was clip saw back on and grab branch and trust me if you dropped the saw I’d be out a job.

  When you do something enough it’s second nature.

  All the daft things are done in your first few years, as the years go by and you get more sawdust down your back and baws you do less swinging about and stunts.

yer talking out of yer mangina now but i would like an autographed photo please.

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12 hours ago, Stephen Blair said:

You don’t want something that breaks under load, you want something that’s easier to undo than a 3 way carabiner.

  When I started it was screw gates, when I was nervous and beginning my climbing career like yourself Joe and weighing 10 stone 2lb I just wouldn’t screw it up so I could quickly unclip.

  I knew a 150kg screwgate held 15kg undone because a man in New Zealand on a 400’ abseil I was doing told me.

  If it was really dodgey ( to me at the time )I would just clamp my legs and not bother with side strop, it was my inexperience that lead me to believe it was a good idea. 

  Graeme McMahon ( I think ) made a rip chord break away 20 plus years ago and it was an epic tree of huge scale, it had a huge top that must of been damaged years before, so twice the girth of the trunk.

  I reckon it was 6-8’ in diameter.  As the top went over he baled out above the bulge and swing down under to the thinner part of the trunk.

  I think he was 150’ at least up too.

  Mans at a different level!

Hopefully a few more years will see me at your level, where the real work gets done from a cab or from a cafe!

 

Until then I'll continue to strop into dodgy trees and tell myself "it'll be alright, as long as the other guys think I'm good."

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Other thing is to move the strop onto bridge rather than side Ds to avoid crush risk if it goes. I'd plan to just silky the lanyard if it got too tight, judging by how often I nick the bloody thing anyway wouldn't be difficult to go right through.

I'm 16 stone so less confident things won't fall over until I've got a few bits cut off.

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The anchor trip adjusting bar could get knocked while working, making it harder to release. Testing the setting and Duck/insulating taping it firm may help.

The comments asking why you'd want reusable, surely if its just a thin cable tie and you cant fell the top out in one it will need one for each position until the dead stem is low enough.  

No way would I want bondage grade cable ties, the thick ones probably hold 200kg

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