Global warming fact or fiction? Has it effected when you use your stove?

[wrsni]

Well there's two issues there.

 

Firstly, even IF the main threat were global warming, and even IF it is being driven by CO2 emissions, the 'action' being taken to 'combat' it is either laughable, farcical, or both if you are cynical enough. That great environmental champion bonny Prince Harry zooms off on Queen Elton's private jet, but don't worry, he/she (not sure what Elton is these days!) bought some 'carbon credits' to 'offset' it so it's OK then. I mean seriously!!!!!!, what a load of absolute shite, .............................and the majority appear to buy in to this bollocks as well.

 

Or what about air travel generally, estimated fuel usage globally is around 700 million litres per day, and rising rapidly. And that is purely the aviation fuel being consumed with no allowance for the fuel being burned to shift and process the fuel itself, the movement of people to and from airports related to that travel, the electricity consumption of the airports 24/7, etc, etc. And is it all necessary?..................of-course it's not. People now going on a weekend break to New York from the UK, a stag do in Prague, a couple of days in Vegas, all well and good but if you want to be serious about saving the planet, so serious that you're prepared to pontificate and bully people to get your point across,  then it needs to be looked at as something which we at very least need to put a much higher value on.

 

Global trade equally needs a huge shake up. Ship a washing machine, microwave, toaster, kettle, whatever, half way around the world only for it to shit itself and be discarded in less than a year, then a local 'recycling' centre, and before much longer on a container back to where it started. But of-course if we weren't shipping our goods in from China, then stuff would have to be produced here, and nobody really wants to do that any more as we all go to university now and are much too important to spend a day working to actually produce something! Never mind that we can kid ourselves that we are reducing our emissions when in fact it's just that we are shutting down all the factories that made stuff while somebody else is upping their emissions to make the stuff for us!

 

But secondly, the planet as a whole is being polluted and stripped of it's natural resources at an increasingly accelerated pace, and while the evidence for the human contribution to climate change is at best contestable, the human contribution to these two is beyond any doubt whatsoever. Yet there is no debate taking place whatsoever along these lines as too do so meaningfully leads to issues which no one wants to face up to. 

Edited September 17, 2019 by wrsni

[Khriss]

....an really, when you think abt it- we are just bags of unpredictable water ( mostly water ) K

Edited September 17, 2019 by Khriss
Try not to use this line on yr client - it doesn't work ( mostly)

[difflock]

A top post wrsni, thank you.

My pet "hate" is the average persons liking(abbetted by our grovelling political "leaders") for exporting their pollution, with a "thats all right then" or downright cynical NIMBY'ism.

Particularly with the sudden totally unexpected discovery that, like;

(i) our exported shitty dirty(& with the full cynical knowledge of the Authorities that it was shitty, mixed and dirty & that includes Councils)

our plastic waste was NOT being recycled,

and , perhaps not entirely unconnected;

(ii) the oceans are full of plastics.

Like "who'd thunk it"

Edited September 17, 2019 by difflock

[wrsni]

Hi Marcus,

 

Never got the chance to call in for a yarn,......................yet!

 

They don't let me out very often now, and when I do get out they panic if I'm not back within a sensible time scale, I think they're worried I'll have got in to a fight with somebody or something.

[difflock]

wrsni, 

Please please call round, the dogs need the exercise!

cheers

marcus

077-642-11-521

[mawsonarb]

Jesus Christ, as if you had enough time to write that! Get a grip me old fruit.

[mawsonarb]

If we are brilliant how come we have denuded our soils, polluted our seas, poisoned our rivers, murdered countless other humans, changed our whole atmosphere, treat our elderly less well than our animals etc etc etc. Yes we made rockets to take man into space but not sure that outweighs all the dumb ass stuff we have and continue to do. Even the main aim of rockets these days is to eventually inhabit another planet as we too stupid to look after this one.

So.... why you contributing to it all by waffling more crap on here, burning precious fossil fuels to power your eco warrior LCD screen! Get a grip the sun will burn out eventually anyway! So let’s put our sunglasses on and throw another shrimp on the Barby!

[Haironyourchest]

When you smell the stench of burning plastic...you know yr shrimp's ready! 

[Khriss]

6 minutes ago, Haironyourchest said:

When you smell the stench of burning plastic...you know yr shrimp's ready! 

Most of us take it out the lidls wrapper first - but I am no chef , K

[daveatdave]

13 hours ago, wrsni said:

Well there's two issues there.

 

Firstly, even IF the main threat were global warming, and even IF it is being driven by CO2 emissions, the 'action' being taken to 'combat' it is either laughable, farcical, or both if you are cynical enough. That great environmental champion bonny Prince Harry zooms off on Queen Elton's private jet, but don't worry, he/she (not sure what Elton is these days!) bought some 'carbon credits' to 'offset' it so it's OK then. I mean seriously!!!!!!, what a load of absolute shite, .............................and the majority appear to buy in to this bollocks as well.

 

Or what about air travel generally, estimated fuel usage globally is around 700 million litres per day, and rising rapidly. And that is purely the aviation fuel being consumed with no allowance for the fuel being burned to shift and process the fuel itself, the movement of people to and from airports related to that travel, the electricity consumption of the airports 24/7, etc, etc. And is it all necessary?..................of-course it's not. People now going on a weekend break to New York from the UK, a stag do in Prague, a couple of days in Vegas, all well and good but if you want to be serious about saving the planet, so serious that you're prepared to pontificate and bully people to get your point across,  then it needs to be looked at as something which we at very least need to put a much higher value on.

 

Global trade equally needs a huge shake up. Ship a washing machine, microwave, toaster, kettle, whatever, half way around the world only for it to shit itself and be discarded in less than a year, then a local 'recycling' centre, and before much longer on a container back to where it started. But of-course if we weren't shipping our goods in from China, then stuff would have to be produced here, and nobody really wants to do that any more as we all go to university now and are much too important to spend a day working to actually produce something! Never mind that we can kid ourselves that we are reducing our emissions when in fact it's just that we are shutting down all the factories that made stuff while somebody else is upping their emissions to make the stuff for us!

 

But secondly, the planet as a whole is being polluted and stripped of it's natural resources at an increasingly accelerated pace, and while the evidence for the human contribution to climate change is at best contestable, the human contribution to these two is beyond any doubt whatsoever. Yet there is no debate taking place whatsoever along these lines as too do so meaningfully leads to issues which no one wants to face up to. 

you forgot to add the military activities