Two Rope Working Consultation

[Mark Bolam]

1 hour ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Seen the one where chummy gets a crane on the noggin? 
 

Don’t think they’d seen the AA crane work draft document. 

Aye, very dead indeed.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

On 10/12/2019 at 21:40, Jake Andrews said:

but what has this to do with two rope working?

The implied question was, had he had a second TiP, possibly but not necessarily in the other top or properly placed below his cut, would he have been better or worse off?

 

Fair play, it is a bit tangential, but it is (most likely) the over worked, under pressure possibly rooky operators making mistakes like this that could find themselves making mistakes or compounding them when apparently poorly considered ‘policies’ are imposed upon them. 

[warren]

@mark skyland.

 

The petzl ASAP Lock gets the thumbs up ?????? from me. Much easier than feeding an srt setup and you can lock if off when you need to. You almost don't know it's there (other than feeding the extra line about obviously).

 

And a 2nd bridge helps with the crossing of kit.

 

Thanks for the goodies too. 

Edited December 13, 2019 by warren

[Jake Andrews]

@mark skyland.
 
The petzl ASAP Lock gets the thumbs up [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106] from me. Much easier than feeding an srt setup and you can lock if off when you need to. You almost don't know it's there (other than feeding the extra line about obviously).
 
And a 2nd bridge helps with the crossing of kit.
 
Thanks for the goodies too. 

Any chance you got a pic of your setup?

[warren]

I have a butterfly harness that only has 1 bridge so I used a 10mm rope (thickest prussic loop I had) with fishermans knots through the webbing loops following the path of the metal shackles of the original bridge and added a ring on it ("I you like it, should have put a ring on it..ah ah ah") but I digress.

 

The petzl ASAP Lock and sorber 40 (you have to have either the 20 or 40 sorber (lanyard)) sits on a semi static rope. I had a Yale imori rope available so I used that.

 

The ASAP Lock attaches midline and follows you. You can lock it off for work positioning with the push of a button.

 

My main line is ddrt with a zz and rope guide.

 

I dabble with srt but don't like the really taught line right in front of my face which to me just seems very vunerable(?). It's stupid I know but that's how it is. Maybe it's because it's semi static and looks stretched as opposed to a static line that doesn't deform as much. 

 

P.s. it has been pointed out to me that a retrieval ball within the vicinity of the zz is verboten. Oh well. Don't copy that then. In fact don't copy anything in case it's wrong and you sue me (p.p.s. if you do .. I'm not worth much). 

Edited December 14, 2019 by warren
Elf n safe tea

[Jake Andrews]

I have a butterfly harness that only has 1 bridge so I used a 10mm rope (thickest prussic loop I had) with fishermans knots through the webbing loops following the path of the metal shackles of the original bridge and added a ring on it ("I you like it, should have put a ring on it..ah ah ah") but I digress.
 
The petzl ASAP Lock and sorber 40 (you have to have either the 20 or 40 sorber (lanyard)) sits on a semi static rope. I had a Yale imori rope available so I used that.
 
The ASAP Lock attaches midline and follows you. You can lock it off for work positioning with the push of a button.
 
My main line is ddrt with a zz and rope guide.
 
I dabble with srt but don't like the really taught line right in front of my face which to me just seems very vunerable(?). It's stupid I know but that's how it is. Maybe it's because it's semi static and looks stretched as opposed to a static line that doesn't deform as much. 

So will the ASAP follow you to the extremity of a branch or does it need to follow a straight line of rope?

[warren]

It'll follow your (2nd) rope and you as it's attached to your bridge by the sorber.

Edited December 14, 2019 by warren
Clarity

[RDB logs]

8 hours ago, warren said:

It'll follow your (2nd) rope and you as it's attached to your bridge by the sorber.

Does it self lock if you fall? Or does it only lock with the leaver manually? 

[warren]

Self locks when falling. Videos on YouTube. Can lock in place for working. 

[scotspine1]

Experience climbers will be able to navigate this latest twin rope development using a main line, a lanyard and a shorter climbing line - say 5m/6m/7m. 

 

 

 

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