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I wonder if it could go on though ?? i think so but i think it helps a great deal if they where fromerly pollards maybe it would end looking up somthing like this in another few hundred years???

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Or crown reduction but be prepared to be called a hacker like I was.

 

This is what I am trying to achieve here in part anyway. A big cut is not always a hack cut, the right guy can do it for all the right reasons, but he best have a darn good explanation for the motives!

 

or we risk opening the floodgates to a bunch of hackers.

 

its going to be a long time before anyone iether admits to or is going to administer what in some case is the only route to long term viability.

 

decay is not always one way proscess

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I wonder if it could go on though ?? i think so but i think it helps a great deal if they where fromerly pollards maybe it would end looking up somthing like this in another few hundred years???

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now imagine applying gentle pressure to the limb on the lower right hand side allowing it to extend, dropping eventualy to the ground, stabalising the other half, get a tripod going and eternal life and habitat security is assured. along with any fungal colonies within the woody matrix!

 

great photo

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eternal life and habitat security is assured.

 

You keep speaking of "eternal life" can you show me one example of a single tree that is even 20,000 years old????????

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I don't know, some people will not accept any reasoning no matter how well furnished you are with knowledge, you say a big cut is not always a hack cut but these fundamentalists believe that any size cut, if it's for a crown reduction or indeed a pollard is a hack cut, you could be a contract climber working to a specification produced on paper by somebody such as the consultant that you mentioned but to them you would still be a hacker and will be openly attacked for your troubles.

 

Anyway, interesting thread.

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Shedding a limb in summer is admittedly a defect, BUT if it was detrimental and not "superior" method to retention its genes would have faded away and been lost to redundancy.

 

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Not sure if I'm with you there. If a tree put all its energy into structural streghnth and not shoot extention it would likely end up being outcompete by its faster growing neighbours. There must be a balance between stregnth and growth rate which means that there is always a risk a limb could fail.

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i think it helps a great deal if they where fromerly pollards maybe it would end looking up somthing like this in another few hundred years???

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great photo

 

 

 

The "Ballerina" sure is a graceful old girl :001_smile:

 

How often do you get to the Beeches Matty?

 

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Having tried to read and make the best sense I can of this thread, can I suggest Hamadryad that you read a book (if you haven't already) called 'The Selfish Gene'. I have a feeling it may be relevant to the theory you are thinking about developing.

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Having tried to read and make the best sense I can of this thread, can I suggest Hamadryad that you read a book (if you haven't already) called 'The Selfish Gene'. I have a feeling it may be relevant to the theory you are thinking about developing.

 

I'm fairly sure that would be in direct opposition to Hama's theory.

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