Pollards, the forgotten art-discussion

[David Humphries]

MonkeyD, what was the thinking behind using an axe? Interesting pics, thanks.

 

Partly to compare success against clean saw cuts, as this was the age old method, also as heritage.

 

My trip to the Basque was mainly about comparing the two techniques, but this was on restorative prunning of lapsed Vet pollards.

 

http://arbtalk.co.uk/forum/picture-forum/11489-study-tour-basque-region-trees.html

 

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[Kat1e]

Thanks, yes I commented on your picture thread. That photo is...errr...slightly frightening! Thankfully the trees I have in mind are smaller!

[Mozza]

There are two ways of looking at this image, discuss what you see here, please i would like to understand what YOU all see.

 

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Its bollocksed, Fell it, Chip back into bushes (gotta love leaving chip on site ), Take wood back to yard, Split it, sell it, Jobs a good un!!

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Having tried to read and make the best sense I can of this thread, can I suggest Hamadryad that you read a book (if you haven't already) called 'The Selfish Gene'. I have a feeling it may be relevant to the theory you are thinking about developing.

 

I am familiar with the writing of richard dawkins, the god delusion, selfish gene etc. NO not where I am going.

[Catweazle]

I have a line about 300yds long of these hornbeam, an old boundary mark;

 

And a few of these ash scattered through the woods;

 

I don't think they are in need of re-pollarding any time soon. They are a bit shorter than other pollards I have seen pictures of, high enough to prevent rabbit damage though.

[Kat1e]

I am familiar with the writing of richard dawkins, the god delusion, selfish gene etc. NO not where I am going.

 

As I said in another post it might be worth a look at some of the more recent related stuff, Jablonka and co. Again, not saying I agree but just that some ideas may be relevant.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

i do try hard to explain what i mean, maybe i am not very good at this?

 

Maybe i am just talking total doodoo! lol

 

O.k. i believe trees have evolved from the very first moment of there development WITH fungi, so long is this relationships history that the two have influenced eachothers evolution. in so doing trees developed lifes that benifitted fungi, and vice versa, over many millenia the two became so intertwined they cannot function without one another, that decay is just the begining of a long winding journey in a trees long long and winding life. the fungi that live in on and around the tree need sustanence, if their impact was a one way street it would not have evolved such a complex affair.

 

Inclusional, the tree embraced the fungi, and the fungi embraced the tree, and many many specialisms evolved, many of which prolong the life of even the most ancient and decrepid trees.

 

 

 

That view is nothing new!

 

but what i am leading too is a discussion on HOW and WHAT might be possible to adapt these proscesses to not only veteranisation techniques but also to preserving trees of an age within our towns and cities.

 

oh and of course to learn as much from all you guys as possible! like i said i dont have all the answers, it is a Discussion?

Edited December 22, 2009 by Tony Croft aka hamadryad

[David Humphries]

I;

 

And a few of these ash scattered through the woods;

 

I don't think they are in need of re-pollarding any time soon. They are a bit shorter than other pollards I have seen pictures of, high enough to prevent rabbit damage though.

 

 

 

I would say the Ash is a coppard.

 

 

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[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

applanatums then,

 

 

 

Did you catch the link to AO's nipple gall shots at Wab?

 

 

They're amazing

 

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i have got to go check them out now! there is one in my gallery too.

 

you lot have been busy while ive been away! some great discussion going on.

 

monkey, have you tried slamming the back end of an axe against the cambium as a wounding method? the "crush" as apposed to a chop or slice, and if so what was the result?

[skyhuck]

if their impact was a one way street it would not have evolved such a complex affair.

 

Inclusional, the tree embraced the fungi, and the fungi embraced the tree, and many many specialisms evolved, many of which prolong the life of even the most ancient and decrepid trees.

 

 

 

 

I would argue that its the competitive nature of the struggle that has led to the complexity.

 

Trees evolve that can compartmentalize the fungus and the fungus must evolve no methods of attack.

 

Next you'll be telling us that Lions and Antelope have a happy going on!!!