what's up with swearing?

[TIMON]

Ooh! I'm feeling right alpha.
 
Prepare to be minced, Robins!

I resisted the urge to look for ‘blokes mincing’ memes

[the village idiot]

12 minutes ago, Arboricultured said:

To a greater understanding of the nature of reality.

We're not really getting anywhere here.

 

Can you spell out what it is you have found? 

 

Genuinely interested.

[Vespasian]

27 minutes ago, DanBous said:

@Vespasian
These are not my own words but have a read of this...

let’s be clear what this woman was requesting. She was asking that the Lord and His disciples accompany her to her home in pagan Tyre or Sidon to heal her daughter. That would involve not simply a quick quiet trip in and out of her city, but a full-scale mission to the Gentile population of the area. Jesus of Nazareth was not able to make quick quiet trips anywhere, for wherever He went a great crowd followed Him. Acceding to the woman’s request would mean days ministering to all the sick, demon-possessed, and afflicted of Tyre and Sidon. And this was not the time for such a mission to the Gentiles. As the Lord said, He was then sent only to the lost sheep of the House of Israel (Matthew 15:24), and even the Twelve were told to conduct their mission only in Jewish towns, avoiding cities of the Gentiles and the Samaritans (Matthew 10:5-6). The time for a full-scale outreach to the Samaritans and Gentiles would come later. That is why our Lord refused her request. To deny the Twelve their desperately needed rest to minister to the Gentiles of Tyre and Sidon would be as inappropriate as taking the food from the table at which hungry children were sitting and giving it instead to the little dogs under the table. Surely anyone could see that the children must be fed first. The needs of the Twelve for rest must take priority over the needs of the Gentiles in those cities.

Then the Canaanite woman makes her response—and changes her request. Okay: Jesus will not accompany her to her place of residence. Let the children be fed. But little dogs can still eat the odd crumb that falls from the table while the children eat. Let the Lord say the word and heal the woman’s daughter at a distance, while He and the Twelve stayed here resting!

It was a bold request, and one that showed tremendous faith on her part. Many people had faith that Jesus could come and heal; this woman had faith He that could heal at a great distance, His simple word of command working a miracle across the miles. That is why Jesus did not say, “O woman, great is your boldness” or “O woman, great is your perseverance”, but rather, “O woman, great is your faith” (Matthew 15:28). And because of this faith, Christ granted her second request, healing her daughter instantly across the miles—“she went home, and found the child lying in bed, and the demon gone (Mark 7:30).

We see in this passage that Jesus does not in fact call the Gentile woman “a dog” or even “a little dog.” Rather, He compares the situation of conflicting needs to the situation of hungry children sitting at a food-laden table with hungry little dogs underneath, and says that the children at the table must be fed first—to explain why He cannot accompany her to her home. His willingness to grant her second and amended request shows His great love for her, and for all the children of men. That love even bridged the gap between Jew and Gentile, giving to the Canaanite woman in advance what would later come to all the Gentiles of the world.

 

You'd think someone would of gone to the trouble of teaching someone to write so as to write down exactly what they mean instead of leaving it to a bunch of parables...

[TIMON]

 
Lets be honest, considering the circumstances you'd expect a little charity without the begging..  
And the point was that Jesus just like Dawkins could be a little caustic to get a point across..
 
 

Firstly, she received what she asked for, so she got a lot more than a little charity.

Secondly, yes, The accounts of Jesus’ interactions show that he was caustic at times, but, if you study these accounts in a little depth, you’ll see that the only people he got angry with were the ‘religious’ establishment people of the day. So if Jesus really was God come as a man, then it stands to reason that God doesn’t care much for religion either.

[Woodlover]

Whale Oil Beef hooked ...said my Irish mate.

[stihlmadasever]

6 hours ago, peatff said:

 

He believed in it enough to say he was leaving the country if Labour got in  He's a Scot same as Rod Stewart really though, he lives in Florida now doesn't he ?

Dunno where he lives

To be fair im not sure he does either...

Oooh

Too far?

[peatff]

6 minutes ago, stihlmadasever said:

Dunno where he lives

To be fair im not sure he does either...

Oooh

Too far?

I think he has Parkinsons not dementia. 

[Vespasian]

26 minutes ago, TIMON said:

 

Firstly, she received what she asked for, so she got a lot more than a little charity.

Secondly, yes, The accounts of Jesus’ interactions show that he was caustic at times, but, if you study these accounts in a little depth, you’ll see that the only people he got angry with were the ‘religious’ establishment people of the day. So if Jesus really was God come as a man, then it stands to reason that God doesn’t care much for religion either.

 

So then, being caustic is a virtue of sorts, and there you was berating Dawkins for doin something even Jesus engaged in on occasion..   you hypocrite take the plank from your eye  ?

[stihlmadasever]

4 minutes ago, peatff said:

I think he has Parkinsons not dementia. 

Ah ok

Nope dont have a quip at hand for that one

[ForestryFinance]

Well this thread has taken a bit of a turn.....