Climate change anyone?

[Khriss]

But then there  will be more forest fire so itll sort itself out in the  end.  Phew. K

[doobin]

On 17/12/2020 at 16:01, ESS said:

Both beet and milk are produced on quota . Its not a question of the beet factory refusing to take the whole crop, however they are under no obligation to take any produce above the contracted tonnage from a farmer. Excess sugar beet ends up as fodder beet .

The same applies to milk, excess milk is usually fed to young stock. Milk from cows that have been given antibiotics etc has to be witheld, as does milk from newly calven cows , so at certain times of the year its quite possible that milk has to go to waste. but in both cases the costings would be based on the level of quota rather than the level produced.

Point of order- quotas are no more for either. These commodities are produced on contract, often an amount per ton or litre up to a certain quantity, then a lesser price for any oversupply. 

[openspaceman]

11 hours ago, Stere said:

Alot of different feeback loops in climate change....

Yes, I skimmed through your link and the positive feedback resulting from non permafrost releasing methane and peat bogs respiring CO2 as well as wildfires but was not so happy about the claim that as things get warmer more water vapour will be in the atmosphere (it will) and trap more heat from leaving the earth. My understanding is that all the wavelengths of infra red re radiation trapped by moisture in the atmosphere  are intercepted already so adding water will not trap any more.

[Stere]

Infrared window?

 

Infrared window - Wikipedia

EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

 

Closing window warmer earth... think clouds and co2 can act to close window as different IR spectrum than water vapour....

 

Feedback:

 

Climate myths: Carbon dioxide isn't the most important greenhouse gas | New Scientist

WWW.NEWSCIENTIST.COM

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Water vapour is the most important contributor to the greenhouse effect but human emissions of CO2 are driving...

 

high & low clouds....

 

https://www.metlink.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/FAQ7_1.pdf

Edited December 24, 2020 by Stere

[openspaceman]

13 hours ago, Stere said:

Infrared window?

 

Interesting and complicated subject, it seems the band  between 5.5 micron and 7.5 micron wavelength is the region where no infra red re radiation gets out at all, and that includes absorption by water, so increase in water makes no difference here, as I thought. There are other regions  in the infra red bandwidth that currently ~80% of the infra red escapes, allowing the earth to cool, but different H2O types of vibrational directions absorb Infra red in these bits of the window and so H2O increase can still dent re radiation in these bands