Worthy of a TPO?

[swinny]

3 minutes ago, Gary Prentice said:

I can't really see future growth as being particularly rapid or extensive. I imagine that that tree is in it's mature growth stage and putting the minimum of incremental growth on.

 

 

I would still go for removal. 

 

This is direct to road no pavement wiggle room. Roots and solid structures is a no no to me.

 

cost of rebuilding wall would way outweigh the removal of the tree.

 

if common sense provail then in my eyes a fresh tree in a better suited spot is the best outcome here. 

 

Got to look further down the line, keeping a tree with issues next to a solid structure vs a nice tree with a lot longer life span for the amenity of the surrounding area.

 

[swinny]

Wall looks single or double? Pillars look quite close maybe single layer? 

 

Wall is moved and tree retained for a further 5-10 years? What is the tree going to be like then after a reduction to look after that union....

 

how good would a new established tree look in 5-10 years

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

4 minutes ago, swinny said:

..how good would a new established tree look in 5-10 years

Particularly if, for instance, Tilia cordata

[Jcarbor]

I've had a couple of occasions where a TPO'd tree has conflicted with retaining walls which had to be rebuilt. 
 
On both occasions the TO said that he'd talk to highways to allowing re-siting of the walls, further onto the pavement, if necessary to rebuild accounting for root growth.

There’s no room to go out on to the highway. The roots are not a problem in this case its the trunk that is encroaching on to the wall.

[Jcarbor]

Wall looks single or double? Pillars look quite close maybe single layer? 
 
Wall is moved and tree retained for a further 5-10 years? What is the tree going to be like then after a reduction to look after that union....
 
how good would a new established tree look in 5-10 years [emoji4]

Well constructed wall Swinny, double brick, there’s no way he will allow a reduction, its frowned upon in Harrogate, bracing is not an option either as the problem is still there.

[Jcarbor]

Do you have any pics of the crown JCarbor?

Yep.

[Mark Bolam]

Mmmmm, nice tree.

I can’t see how the tree can be retained and the wall moved without encroachment onto the road though.

Rock and a hard place.

Treework is a lot cheaper than brickwork....

The LA will probably TPO it, then come after your client claiming his wall is encroaching on the highway.

[swinny]

Ahh yes it is a nice tree!

 

How about dismantle the wall around the tree stem? then mock up something for security with the wall?

[Khriss]

Hmmm, good one this , not a rare species / memorial / historic. So would put it under D.D.D. ( pushing wall out onto a footpath - foreseeable wall failure personal injury / death ) for removal and conditional replacement elsewhere. Birmingham bus stop case would be my worry. K

[Mark Bolam]

35 minutes ago, swinny said:

Ahh yes it is a nice tree!

 

How about dismantle the wall around the tree stem? then mock up something for security with the wall?

Already covered mate.

Client doesn't want a solution like that apparently.

 

The way I see it is something like that or lose the tree.