Wellingtonia felled by idiots!

[Gary Prentice]

8 minutes ago, Stubby said:

Not really . Quite astute actually . They know its worth it whatever the fine ....

Things need to change so that it isn't worth it then, doesn't it? Rescind the planning consent or whatever, just change things so that it isn't financially feasible to take the micky.

[Stubby]

1 minute ago, Gary Prentice said:

Don't be so fatalistic Stubby, With that attitude we might as well scrap TPOs and CAs (think of the money that could be saved) and make it a free for all.

 

My argument is to push for a change in legislation, any money from fines should be kept local and used towards replacing/improving the amenity that has been lost.

 

I can't remember where or who was behind it, but one of the American states used to have a scheme(still might) where if the home owner wanted to remove a tree from the front of the property, they paid into a fund which was ring fenced for new highways planting. 

 

Currently the system doesn't appear to be working, so maybe it's time to change things?

 

I'll get off me horse now.

 

 

I'm with you Gary , You know that  but ....make it happen , just make it happen my friend .

[Gary Prentice]

3 minutes ago, Stubby said:

I'm with you Gary , You know that  but ....make it happen , just make it happen my friend .

I'm sure that my MP will be really interested in this 

[AJStrees]

I would say that is a really good point. 

 

There should definitely be law and order on this point and probably there is stuff that exists out there to a degree. I am no legal expert. 

 

But I agree that there should be no way of removing such a tree without serious consequences for the offender. 

 

The woodland trust and other organisations are working to increase this and make things tighter but I think this needs a lot more work to get things like this to cease. I believe in other countries there are much more strict rules on what you can and cannot do with trees. Potentially we could take a lesson from these other countries who do this well. (whoever that might be)

[Stubby]

Just now, Gary Prentice said:

I'm sure that my MP will be really interested in this 

Yea and my cock is a kipper ?

[Squaredy]

1 hour ago, codlasher said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46380554

Perhaps this has already been posted.

To me this an act of blatant vandalism & I believe that ALL those responsible should spend time behind bars......Not just a fine, although a £5 million fine would make them sit up eh!

Who (contractor) in their right mind would fell such a big stick without some query? Firstly you'd need some serious machinery to fell this at 200 years old as they are really quite large, then you'd need some very heavy equipment to haul it away. Yes there is a market but the DIY portable saw folk would still need some serious milling power then hauling equipment/manpower to just take away the produce.

I'm hoping the council will have the balls to see this through the legal process as to what I beliveve is a typical developer scam. £money greasing palms & all those underhand things that go on.

Comments welcome....

codlasher

One thing we can be certain of is that it was not 200 years old.  First Sequoia was introduced to the UK in 1853.

 

Another thing we can be certain of is this is less of a crime than the really old trees that were felled for no good reason in California in the 1800s.  Some of them were 2000 years old.  That was ignorance.  I guess this was incompetence.....or maybe cynical commercialism; though I doubt they will gain much, as it will need to be replaced, so it won't give them room for an extra house or three.

[swinny]

4 minutes ago, Squaredy said:

One thing we can be certain of is that it was not 200 years old.  First Sequoia was introduced to the UK in 1853.

 

Another thing we can be certain of is this is less of a crime than the really old trees that were felled for no good reason in California in the 1800s.  Some of them were 2000 years old.  That was ignorance.  I guess this was incompetence.....or maybe cynical commercialism; though I doubt they will gain much, as it will need to be replaced, so it won't give them room for an extra house or three.

The first Sequoia introduced in 1853 be the one at Cluney Gardens, Aberfeldy?

[Gary Prentice]

1 minute ago, swinny said:

The first Sequoia introduced in 1853 be the one at Cluney Gardens, Aberfeldy?

I've seen that and never knew that!

[Squaredy]

1 minute ago, swinny said:

The first Sequoia introduced in 1853 be the one at Cluney Gardens, Aberfeldy?

If I remember rightly Douglas sent many seeds back to the UK, and saplings.  So I think that many of the Sequoias all over the UK are all about the same vintage.  The landed gentry and aristocracy of the day all tried to outdo each other with the most exotic trees etc so they all jumped on the bandwagon....luckily for us.

[swinny]

Just now, Squaredy said:

If I remember rightly Douglas sent many seeds back to the UK, and saplings.  So I think that many of the Sequoias all over the UK are all about the same vintage.  The landed gentry and aristocracy of the day all tried to outdo each other with the most exotic trees etc so they all jumped on the bandwagon....luckily for us.

2 Big ones up there, Ones huge!

 

Amazing tree's