Another tree ident please. Sumac?

[richardwale]

I've never known a tree ident beat anyone on here. Back to the books...

[tomo567]

Could it be ailanthus

[daltontrees]

15 hours ago, richardwale said:

I've never known a tree ident beat anyone on here. Back to the books...

To be fair to us all, the pictures aren't that great and there's no scale for the leaves

[devon TWiG]

also the wood colour is not something we can use to ID rare trees as we rarely cut them !!   my thought are possibly pterocarya sp  but seeds / flowers etc would prove / disprove this . Interesting though ....

[tomo567]

Is there suckers coming off the roots

[Stubby]

Hornbeam ! , surely ? ?

[shillo]

It is the same sample, getting a little desiccated now though! Sorry i thought the babies high chair would have given enough of a scale!

[shillo]

28 minutes ago, tomo567 said:

Is there suckers coming off the roots

There was one definitely (3'' at ground level, approximately 10m from base of parent tree, there was also one other which may have been a root sucker or may have been another much smaller stem (within 10cm of parent tree) i didn't have a good root about.

[tomo567]

Is there anything growing happy around base of tree

[shillo]

17 minutes ago, tomo567 said:

Is there anything growing happy around base of tree

"There was" it was right in the dz! It will reshoot though I'm sure of it. Recon i will have to resurrect this thread in a year or two!