Another tachograph thread...

[GlobalNewark]

We (Global Recycling) as a distributor also run tacho’s in our Disco’s due to the area we cover. If we demo it’s our machine but if we sell and deliver it’s hire or reward. We also keep the records as earlier mentioned & log out of scope driving + other work hours. It’s a pain but you cant argue with DVSA

[woody woodpecker]

Hi are you hiring out  the machine or are you hiring out your services ? I think it might make a difference .

[monkeybusiness]

Just do your big drives at the weekend when DVSA are in the pub... 

[Justme]

On 12/06/2018 at 10:08, LincolnSteve said:

 

 

Thankfully you'll be driver CPC exempt (tools of the trade) but will be subject to EU driving hours regulations! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If he is just doing driving work on each day there & back I would question that. With that length of trip it would be hard to say your not a driver.

[Justme]

18 hours ago, Sveriges said:

Get this, if a horse box owner is competing with there horse in a competition with The potential to win a substantial amount they fall under tacho regs. Even if they were competing with a donky and didn’t stand a chance it makes no difference. If there is no reward then you don’t need one. The law doesn’t mention a threshold tho it just says substantial. Well what does that mean £500 or £50,000

 

This was what was thought and implemented. It has now been through the court processes & you do not need a tacho for this type of use.

Edited June 13, 2018 by Justme
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[Justme]

4 hours ago, woody woodpecker said:

Hi are you hiring out  the machine or are you hiring out your services ? I think it might make a difference .

Makes no difference as the "work" is still your own.

[Justme]

22 minutes ago, monkeybusiness said:

Just do your big drives at the weekend when DVSA are in the pub... 

The new DVSA contracts are for weekends too

[Jonny69]

19 hours ago, Big J said:

Yep, figured that too. I'd do a short day on the Friday to keep me legal. That being said, I'd probably be staying on site, so would have no drive in the morning, and thus the start of my working day would be undefinable.

 

It irritates me tremendously that the people towing badly loaded caravans and horse boxes twice a year (that in my mind represent a much greater public safety risk) are no subject to any such regulation.

I have seen 4 trailer related crashes on the road. Witnessed two of them happen in front of me and the aftermath of two.

 

They were all non commercial, 2 caravans one horsebox and one little trailer that looked like it should have been scrapped several years ago. All four accidents were bad, one stopped the M5 and another the A14 which I managed to squeeze round just after it happened (after checking everyone was okay)

 

The rules are tremendously irritating for businesses trying to make a living!

[billpierce]

Does it not make a difference if it is your job. I.e Jonathan's work is forestry and extraction not transport to hire forwarder.

Would you need a tacho to drive a landy and heavy chipper?

[roseyweb]

I've been done by vosa for taco, they will fine and also prohibit you from continuing your journey. 

Our digger now goes on our lorry as i'm to tight to put a taco on my pickup