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25 minutes ago, Vespasian said:

I dread to think how they went on fifty years back, what without tickets an all..  training and tickets, who needs em :thumbdown:

 

50 years back you had a bosun chair, with training, tickets and evolution look where climbing is now, streets ahead.

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30 minutes ago, Vespasian said:

I dread to think how they went on fifty years back, what without tickets an all..  training and tickets, who needs em :thumbdown:

 

Try 35 years back...

Stevie blair on here was climbing big trees with no harness,ropes or spikes!

Caffeine fags and a do or die attitude got him up the tree.

Personally i like the fact that we need training to use our equipment and work in a safe method in a safe environment.

You are of course entitled to your opinion...i just dont agree with it

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21 minutes ago, stihlmadasever said:

Try 35 years back...

Stevie blair on here was climbing big trees with no harness,ropes or spikes!

Caffeine fags and a do or die attitude got him up the tree.

Personally i like the fact that we need training to use our equipment and work in a safe method in a safe environment.

You are of course entitled to your opinion...i just dont agree with it

35 years back we were using harnesses, a leather Whillans or if you was really luck a troll sit harness - no leg loops. ( Although some of the olders lads had started climbing without) Ropes were yachting kernmantle type construction or three strand stuff - no prussic loops or shiny aids. The twenties packed up when it rained unless you kept them ticking over. No saw strops, just a carbine hook tied to the handle to clip into the harness while moving about. 

 

Every-one spiked to the top of the tree before setting an anchor, bull ropes were hemp or sissal, and wouldn't take much the way in shock loading - the first time I used a topping strop the bull rope just snapped! And no lowering aids, one wrap or two round the stem.

 

No chippers, no chainbreaks, no autolocking carabiners. AV mounts were shite, saws were heavy with little or no plastics. 

 

We've come a long way...

 

 

 

 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, stihlmadasever said:

Try 35 years back...

Stevie blair on here was climbing big trees with no harness,ropes or spikes!

Caffeine fags and a do or die attitude got him up the tree.

Personally i like the fact that we need training to use our equipment and work in a safe method in a safe environment.

You are of course entitled to your opinion...i just dont agree with it

Oh did he now!!. well I'll tip my hat to the fella...   

 

to many soft uns these days..   I used to tie in with a bit of bailing string or owt lying about..   rachet straps seems like a godsend..

 

I wouldn't expect anyone to do the things I've done mind..  but seein as its me doin it, I'l do a job as I see fit...

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8 minutes ago, stihlmadasever said:

Check out the picture of stevie blair takin a serious chunk.of tree with no harness or strop..

Crazy or cool?

Both id say

https://arbtalk.co.uk/forums/topic/15959-favourite-picture-of-you-climbing/?do=findComment&comment=1612069

I think you will find he is most defiantly wearing a harness and using a strop.

 

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8 minutes ago, skyhuck said:

I think you will find he is most defiantly wearing a harness and using a strop.

 

Click on the link above and scroll down a couple of posts to where he says

"Im not even wearing a harness or strop"

Maybe a piss take i dont know

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2 minutes ago, stihlmadasever said:

Click on the link above and scroll down a couple of posts to where he says

"Im not even wearing a harness or strop"

Maybe a piss take i dont know

xD Look at his stance, with no harness and strop he'd fall over backwards, you can actually see the tail of his strop in the pic :001_smile:

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