Day Rate NOT London and the SE

[Mick Dempsey]

We all know that can happen.

 

Comprehensive Allowance of Systems and Hyenas.

 

 

(in answer to Huck)

Edited November 2, 2017 by Mick Dempsey

[Mark Bolam]

That is a very valid point Huck.

170 days at £500 and that's your lot.

Leaves 194 days to blow it on hos and charlie, and spend Christmas Day with the family.

The dirty c-word that Mick mentioned is obviously alive and well....

[Mark Bolam]

Also Ben (great poll btw), either the lucrative SE isn't that different, or I need to jack my prices up!

For the record I ticked the 'view only option'.

I liked the way you levelled the playing field by setting a few criteria that most can relate to.

I'm finding more and more that my best days financially are multiple small jobs, rather than big glory camera-tastic gruellers.

I try and get a sense of each job from the initial phone call, where I always stipulate that the truck and chipper won't be appearing for less than £130, even for a tiddler. That sharp gets rid of loads of low ballers and 20 quote messers.

4/5/6 of them in a day and the cash, sorry, bank transfers, is/are where I want it to be.

 

[Mick Dempsey]

Understood Mark, but that’s where you’ve pitched yourself. Pruning, trimming small(er) removals. 

 

Its a lucrative area.

 

If you’ve geared yourself up for removals, with a loader, bigger chipper etc. You would find the bigger money days are in that.

 

You pays your money and you takes your choice.

 

 

 

 

[Mark Bolam]

Totally Mick, I'm scaling down, not up, but I do enjoy teaming up with the lads who are on the rise.

Works for me, works for them.

[Pete Mctree]

I think it is about finding your own level/market and exploiting it. I work as a contact climber primarily, but i am building my own work slowly. I price high & achieve a lot in a day with the help of some highly skilled staff. So, although my price is over £600 on a typical day, my wage bill is going to be approaching £275. Turnover is bullshit - profit is everything!

[benedmonds]

1 hour ago, Mark Bolam said:

Also Ben (great poll btw), either the lucrative SE isn't that different, or I need to jack my prices up!

 

 

Me too.. again it makes me think some of us old timers are keeping the rates down.. I am at the cheaper half, where I have always tried to compete on doing a better more efficient job.

[Jonny69]

22 minutes ago, Pete Mctree said:

I think it is about finding your own level/market and exploiting it. I work as a contact climber primarily, but i am building my own work slowly. I price high & achieve a lot in a day with the help of some highly skilled staff. So, although my price is over £600 on a typical day, my wage bill is going to be approaching £275. Turnover is bullshit - profit is everything!

To work that back, if three people (assuming you are not paying yourself in that) 600-275 is 325. Allow roughly £150 per day operating costs leaves you with 175. Looking at your wage bill i'd say you are earning about the same as the lads working for you. Except they get to go home at 4:30!

 

I couldn't get near £600 for a three man day. Although it's not directly comparable as I have neither a transit or timberwolf.

[Mark Bolam]

Good post Jonny.

Half the trick is to screw the operating costs down.

All maintenance work is redefined as leisure time when you have kids, as are log deliveries and carting stuff about at weekends.

 

[Rough Hewn]

Your "3 man" team look rather young mr bolam?
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