Wheelie bin log deliveries

[simsimo]

I'm going to be selling a few logs this year and plan to deliver them by the wheelie bin load for ease of tapering them directly to people's logs stores etc.

 

I'm just trying to work out how many 240lt bins would fill a standard builders bag.

Obviously the long way to do it would be to fill bins and then empty into bags to see how many fit in there but I'm just hoping that one of you may already know the answer.

 

Cheers

[Rough Hewn]

Builders bag 1000 litres
Wheelie bin 240 litres
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[SbTVF]

Builders bag 1000 litres
Wheelie bin 240 litres
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Builders bags are definitely not 1000 litres. More like 700.
Big log bags tend to be about 800 and only actual cubic metre bags are a 1000 litre

All assumes no stretch though of course.

[Danny Boy]

Single biggest source of headache & scams when it comes to logs.

I stopped selling logs cause I was competing against idiots who sell a "ton" bag which is a "cube", when in reality most are far far from it.

Worked out OK though cause I have enough for me & my mate who fixes all my gear [emoji16]

I like the idea of the wheelie bin [emoji106]

To cover yourself just Incase, mention to folk it's a bin packed loose or however you decide to do it.

You can't argue with the volume of a bin so leave all the guess work of how many bins to a bag & all that malark to your customers.

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[SbTVF]

On forestry commission documents they say 1m3 loose equates to approve 0.66m3 stacked. Work from that and they can't say anything against you.

[matelot]

Neat idea! 

[Daniël Bos]

Calculating will be very inaccurate.

Against a hard edge, loosely tipped logs don't make efficient use of space. So 5x200l containers are not the same as 1x1000l, and 10x1000l not the same as 1x10000, the difference becomes proportionally bigger with smaller containers.

 

At a guess I'd say six 240l wheelie bins is a little under1m2.

 

Seems like a lot of hassle (filling them by hand, how will you get them on/off yr truck etc), and a lot of investment to (legally) acquire a reasonable amount of bins.

 

Have you tried Barrow bags?

 

 

[scbk]

Barrow bags are a similar size to wheelie bins, 200l-250l, and as the name suggests can be moved about easily by a sack barrow

[simsimo]

I've already got the wheelie bins that I used to use for my wee chipper some years ago and they were only £20 each. 

 

I plan to transport them in a trailer and that sort of weight in a wheelie bin is easily handled and easy to tip out wherever the client wants them.

I can only fit 4-6 bins in the trailer at a time but I'm only doing a few logs on the side so don't expect to be shifting large volumes.

 

So by the sounds of it, 3 bins should be equal to just over a builders bag of logs so in thinking £30 per bin load (loosely stacked) of split and seasoned hard wood dropped at the clients desired location (as long as I can wheel the bin there)!

 

Thanks for all your replies

[Stephen Blair]

Builders bag is 0.56m3.

 

Wheelie bins already have the cubic capacity stamped on the side.  For trading standard purposes this is perfect.  If you want to be more precise in log numbers you get between 90-100 logs in a wheelie bin tightly packed.

1m3 vented log bag is approx 360-400 logs, theybstretch the more you use them so become inaccurate and cost you more, I wouldn't recommend useing them more than twice.   Builders bag 240-260 logs.

My logs were 8" long ( width of the saw ) and approx 5" diameter at widest point, an ugly brick is how I would describe them to mow public with no log experience.

  4 wheelie bins is just under 1m3.

I used to deliver mine with my tail lift Luton, 12 in the back max.

  This is easily done with a ramped plant trailer and some what easier for replacing empty bins at the back.

  I used to leave the bins with the customer, always planned on  putting a line approx 1/3 from the bottom the writing saying, Text for top up with my number, customer already has your bank details, money goes in, logs get delivered.

  I was £30 per bin or 4 for £100.

  Bins can easily be sourced from the council, damaged ones are easily fixed, steam cleaned and made to look pretty.

  They are easily moved, will fit in almost every garden and are part of people's lives, no stacking or handling except for straight to the fire.