Using personal truck for work...What's a fair price?

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Been asked to use my d max for work, driving around and to fields and towing a 14ft ifor (weighed in at 6.5t over the bridge!)

 

The gov website says 45p/ mile but what do you think is fair for this?

 

Towing a heavy truck is going above and beyong the remit of 45p a mile IMO.

 

As was said earlier, look up the hire cost of a similar vehicle and charge that. If whoever you are working for doesn't have the kit for the job, they should be pricing accordingly to cover the hire....not taking advantage of others for their gain.

 

 

I'm not sure you're applying what the HMRC "allows" as claimable mileage in the right context here.

 

HMRC allows £0.45/per mile as a deductible business expense:

 

https://www.gov.uk/expenses-and-benefits-business-travel-mileage/rules-for-tax

 

That's wholly different to what you might expect to PAY somebody to provide a service - hire and operate a vehicle.

 

Sounds like you're selling yourself short really....

[muttley9050]

who is going to pay for the installation off the taco you will require?

[MW Tree Services]

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I'm not sure you're applying what the HMRC "allows" as claimable mileage in the right context here.

 

HMRC allows £0.45/per mile as a deductible business expense:

 

https://www.gov.uk/expenses-and-benefits-business-travel-mileage/rules-for-tax

 

That's wholly different to what you might expect to PAY somebody to provide a service - hire and operate a vehicle.

 

Sounds like you're selling yourself short really....

I was told not sold 😁

Didn't think about it to start with. .then the fuel at the pump got me thinking. ...

[spuddog0507]

Been asked to use my d max for work, driving around and to fields and towing a 14ft ifor (weighed in at 6.5t over the bridge!)

 

The gov website says 45p/ mile but what do you think is fair for this?

 

Just to give you a guideline transit 350 lwb with 12 ft ifor box trailer,van was owned and paid for trailer was hired in on a daily basis when needed traveling from Preston to hull on average 2/3 times a WK delivering kitchens so not a vast weight, was paid £1.20 per mile and paid both ways worked out at over £400 a trip some days went twice but not often one day I won't forget 2 trips with van n trailer and 1 with just van and all this was in 2007/2008 when hull and surrounding villages got seriously flooded. So your 45p I don't even think will cover your expences, more up to date like about 3 WK ago I went collecting plastic bags that had had trees in them for a forestry co with a Nissan cabstar pick up went to 4 sites in lancs and north Yorks 146 miles round trip 5 hrs £280 so at 45p mile it would be £65.70 big differenc . personally if it was 45p per mile I would just stop at home and watch Jeremy kyle, hope this helps you.

[Daniël Bos]

Just to give you a guideline..........Jeremy kyle, hope this helps you.

Is this on top of your wages?

Or you and the vehicle together?

[spuddog0507]

Is this on top of your wages?

Or you and the vehicle together?

 

Self employed owner driver a wage on top would of been nice as well but that don't happen to me .

[devon TWiG]

The allowances for vehicle usage is quite clear to me and should be understood by anyone self employed , my understanding is this .......A dedicated works vehicle eg sign written transit tipper all running costs are tax deductible . Although some vehicles your accountant may expect you use your works vehicle for private use and may deduct a percentage ..... If you use your own private car for business use occasionally ( quoting , surveys , attending seminars / courses etc ) then you can claim 45p for miles covered against taxable income / profit .....In the case of the OP if you are self employed and are receiving , lets say , £100 per week extra ( which should be subject to taxation as part of your income ) yet you cover 100 miles you are then entitled to claim £45 per week expenses against this "extra " income therefore will only pay tax on the remaining £55.. I believe the 45p per mile was a result of consultation between HMRC and motoring organisations as typical costs for running an average car ...

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

The more you think about it, the more you can get tied up in knots!

 

If you are "required" / agree that you use your own truck for work purposes, then it's likely that you should be paid from the time you get in the truck in the morning to when you get out at night, plus you're "working" whilst driving to / from tasks so any accident is a workplace accident with RIDDOR and statutory sick pay implications. Installing tacho is an interesting one also.

 

Who is insured / liable for damage to cargo / plant on the trailer in the case of accident? Are you then a third party carrier or an employee?? Who is liable to damage / injury to a third party?

 

As with many things in life, all is groovy 'tll the poo hits the fan!

[Woodworks]

I charge 45p a mile for travel with a processor on the back. It doesn't make money but it does a lot more than cover the fuel cost. It's not like you don't have to tax, insure and MOT your truck anyway.

[Richard 1234]

I charge 45p a mile for travel with a processor on the back. It doesn't make money but it does a lot more than cover the fuel cost. It's not like you don't have to tax, insure and MOT your truck anyway.

 

 

That's true but that's for your own business isn't it? Your paying the mots etc. Would you do the same for someone else? I wouldn't

 

 

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