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There are no locking diffs across the axle on any of the old Land Rovers unless put on as an extra, hence the one front wheel which was not turning.

 

There arn't axle diff locks on any production defenders are there?

 

Iv seen a central diff lock on a Defender 90

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Iv seen a central diff lock on a Defender 90

 

Yes there is a central diff lock, but that simply takes you from one wheel drive (one wheel on the front or rear axel, which ever offers the least resistance, IE permanent 4X4) to two wheel drive, one front one back.

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Not sure if there were locking axle diffs on the 1st post of the 6 wheel sandringham with all wheels spinning but I suspect not. There looked to be no grip whats so ever and the diffs met no resistance so all wheels turned. If any of the wheels got a hint of grip the opposite wheel would of probably stopped moving. The only way to get 100% grip/drive would be to have after-market locking axle diffs on all axles and of course correct tyres for the conditions. Without them a land rover can be pretty crap on slippery surface conditions. Of course thats just my opinion:001_rolleyes:

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Not sure if there were locking axle diffs on the 1st post of the 6 wheel sandringham with all wheels spinning but I suspect not. There looked to be no grip whats so ever and the diffs met no resistance so all wheels turned. If any of the wheels got a hint of grip the opposite wheel would of probably stopped moving. The only way to get 100% grip/drive would be to have after-market locking axle diffs on all axles and of course correct tyres for the conditions. Without them a land rover can be pretty crap on slippery surface conditions. Of course thats just my opinion:001_rolleyes:

 

Thats not how diffs work, grip would stop the wheel, the other wheel on the same axel without resistance would spin.

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Obviously I didn't explain myself very well, I've got one eye on the rugby! That sandringham probably didn't have locking diffs, not very good mud tyres, not much weight overall. 6 wheels can mean there's less weight on to each tyre than a standard 4 wheel. Perhaps the poster can confirm! Land rovers to be any good in wet conditions need to have after market locking diffs otherwise they can be pretty poor and an embarrassment :001_huh:

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It is my special field for demonstrating to people who think their 4x4 is invincible, that it is not!

The one wheel which is not turning you can see has quite a chunky tread on it, as have the other five, but they have been turned into slicks by the sticky clay.

In this case I do not think locking diffs across each axle would have made any difference,.

Charging the mud may have helped if momentum was maintained on the other hand it may just put you deeper in the mud.

In the same way letting the air out of the tyres which are crossply I do not think would have helped but I am willing to be corrected on this.

I was very impressed with a German friend when we were in Namibia driving over very soft sand on the way to Sossusflei. We had bottomed out in a really soft patch of sand and the chassis was resting on the sand. He let the air out of the tyres. I thought that all it would do was make the chassis go down even further onto the sand but the Defender just pulled out easily.

I am not sure how that translates into sticky clay.

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