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  1. 1. Next POTUS?

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, sime42 said:

 

No.

 

It's got to be said though; at least your surreal obfuscation and distraction is normally amusing. (Those talents are wasted on an arb forum, go into script writing or something.) Much better than the abuse and insult that's thrown out as the only other response in the face of the adversity of trying to defend the untenable position.

 

 

I agree 42 repeatedly trying to create an obscure link between a Democratically elected president, rape and a forum member with absolutely zero evidence to support it is pretty pathetic. 
What is the untenable position you speak of ??. 

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Posted
5 hours ago, sime42 said:

To be fair it's not really about sides, there's so much more at stake with this Potus. However, if it has to be framed within the very narrow, and restrictive viewpoint of sides; then there are no winners amongst the common people, only losers. There's countless MAGA voters who are now worse off than they were 12 months ago. The only winners in any of this are the small number of rich elite, the tech oligarchs and social media barons etc. The very people that the MAGA ideal is meant to target. That's a failure, not a win.

 

 

 

Depends what you value. Some things are more important than money, to many people.

 

We (the common people) are all going to get poorer. Actually our undeserved wealth is being realistically revalued, this is an inevitable macro economic adjustment and will happen whichever side is in power.

 

The "Left" side is losing cultural control. They still have a lot of control, in the West, but the momentum of cultural power going "Right" is steady.

 

Culture is more important than money. 

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Posted
19 hours ago, Johnsond said:

I try and keep it factual Mark

If it fits your narrative, Dave.

 

100% wrong, obvious from very early on if you had a single ounce of common sense. 

It wasn't obvious to everyone who wasn't a microbiologist. It still isn't. 

 

I find ex forces lads to be a lot more independent and broad minded than many civvies.

So do I, in general. 

 

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1 hour ago, Mark J said:

If it fits your narrative, Dave.

Nope not at all, simple facts Mark suit me fine every time, no assumptions or guesses etc. 

 

1 hour ago, Mark J said:

It wasn't obvious to everyone who wasn't a microbiologist. It still isn't. 

The actions taken and what people were asked to do was ridiculous, I’m not a microbiologist and it was plain to see as far as I’m concerned. 

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3 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Nope not at all, simple facts Mark suit me fine every time, no assumptions or guesses etc. 

 

The actions taken and what people were asked to do was ridiculous, I’m not a microbiologist and it was plain to see as far as I’m concerned

Exactly. 

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4 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Exactly. 

I can see the stance you took on a dedicated thread on the subject hasn’t changed much. Mind you it takes a better man to admit he was wrong or swallowed the BS big time.  Hang on isn’t that your line 😂😂

Posted
6 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Nope not at all, simple facts Mark suit me fine every time, no assumptions or guesses etc. 

 

The actions taken and what people were asked to do was ridiculous, I’m not a microbiologist and it was plain to see as far as I’m concerned. 

as far as I'm concerned - this is the whole problem, the issue is too complex to be grasped by a layperson, it would be like me commenting on how they should have approached raising the Bayesian so the diver didn't die the other day during metal cutting, I have no training in diving or salvage so my opinion would be as valid as yours on pandemic management

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2 hours ago, tree-fancier123 said:

as far as I'm concerned - this is the whole problem, the issue is too complex to be grasped by a layperson, it would be like me commenting on how they should have approached raising the Bayesian so the diver didn't die the other day during metal cutting, I have no training in diving or salvage so my opinion would be as valid as yours on pandemic management

There was nothing complex about a lot of the sheer stupidity and pointless nonsense we saw and lived through during that period. 
I’d have thought the behaviour of those in a position to have far more information and knowledge available to them at the time which we now are fully aware of would be enough of a clue. You certainly didn’t need any training to realise not long into that farce that things had got absolutely out of all proportion. But I guess it’s a personal choice as to what we believe about that period of madness. 
The explosion was caused by Hydrogen build up from the oxy arc cutting process it’s happened before numerous times and will  happen again. Why ?? Because people make the same stupid mistakes and decisions time after time after time thinking the outcome might be different, not unlike the whole lockdown concept and numerous other measures that were put into place by power hungry politicians. 

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