Potus ???

[Yournamehere]

2 minutes ago, GarethM said:

No he brought up Nazis and the extermination of the Jews, so that's hardly proportionality is it when they're civilian.

 

Rounding up and murdering people in death camps is hardly explained in any context!.

 

One presumes your over the age of 45, so on our doorstep is Ireland.

 

All I see is lefty hand tied logic, you can't do that because x,y,z fine off you pop to explain to the bad man why what they're doing is wrong, just don't complain when they flower in the barrel doesn't stay there 

No Nazis/Jews isn't Proportionate it violates proportionality in war: that is exactly what proportionality in war is about.

 

Yes I'm over 45; I had no idea you were referring to Northern Ireland.

Don't start me on that; those people are still out there and they still frighten me.

I have had vague long term connections with Aldershot: I assure you the Irish terrorists will have no sympathy from me whatsoever.

 

Why lefty hand tied logic (if you are referring to my recent posts)? It was a point of rhetoric as much as anything: totally apolitical: I haven't said that anyone can't do anything, nor suggested anything needs explaining to any terrorists, you're just making stuff up again, just like you used to.

 

For myself I would like to see these disputes settled by who can make the best cake: There would be a lot less blood shed! (Insert obligatory joke about "well you obviously han't been watching Celebratory Master-chef Challenge in the Kitchen lately then").

 

Finally, Gareth, I wonder if we are arguing the same thing from different ends? I am saying that there is proportionality in war; and that when it is violated it is an outrage (because without it these atrocities would be accepted as a normal part of warfare). I wonder if the point that you are making is that, yes although it would be nice if there were, there isn't because it is violated so often?

 

Anyway, I gotta crack on now. Addios.

[BillQ]

Seems to be a lot of conflicting ideas here, how about we differentiate between wars and terrorism?

Wars, as we know them at this time, have some form of rules or guidelines and if you are an aggressor without a uniform you are likely to be shot no questions asked. 

Terrorism, not so much on one side, the ones that aren't in uniform, and if they push it too far then rules are generally forgotten full stop. 

Yes grey areas abound but that's life.

[sime42]

17 hours ago, Johnsond said:

And nor should they ffs

 

You appear to be completely incapable of engaging in any form of discussion. Insults and abuse do not count as discussion, it's just seen as tedious noise. Rather than resorting to that, you'd look better for lying low for a bit. 

 

§ What's the point of joining a forum if you're not going to contribute anything positive, or even just thought provoking?

 

 

 

 

Edited April 17 by sime42
§ Rhetorical

[Yournamehere]

1 hour ago, sime42 said:

 

You appear to be completely incapable of engaging in any form of discussion. Insults and abuse do not count as discussion, it's just seen as tedious noise. Rather than resorting to that, you'd look better for lying low for a bit. 

 

§ What's the point of joining a forum if you're not going to contribute anything positive, or even just thought provoking?

 

 

 

 

QFT

[tree-fancier123]

1 hour ago, sime42 said:

Insults and abuse do not count as discussion, it's just seen as tedious noise. Rather than resorting to that, you'd look better for lying low for a bit. 

that is horrible - suggesting he lie low for a bit, just because you don't approve of the way he interacts

At least he's vocal about the trouble a lot of foreigners cause - I mean look at this mess

Mazyar Azarbonyad - sounds a bit foreign, Trump is even setting the stage for deporting US citizens

Imagine some toe rag phone theif from London, born in UK, but still deported to El Salvador.

That young lad has cost the taxpayers a fortune, and with a name like Mazyar it's got to have something to do with immigration. I mean immigration recently, not dating back from Roman times.

We need offensive people like Trump and Farage and JD, to balance out all the Starmer types - Starmer would never insult people on a forum, but his whole government is an insult.

Edited April 17 by tree-fancier123

[Mesterh]

15 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

Trump is even setting the stage for deporting US citizens

Now if that isnt a very big red flag then I dont know what is. Moustache man is back and hes been tangoed.

 

 

 

[sime42]

1 hour ago, Yournamehere said:

QFT

 

Quantum field theory is a bit deep for this thread.

Edited April 17 by sime42

[Steven P]

There is however a massive difference 'stirring things up' and visiting a forum to throw out the insults without any meaningful discussion.

 

On this thread you might like to compare say, GarethM and JohnsonD. Politically I agree with neither. I know I shouldn't name check however will do for the point of discussion. GarethM is able and does hold a discussion together most of the time, which I think is why no one has ever levelled the "how about you give it a break for a while" line at him. He can succinctly make continue a thread without throwing out insults in his second post of the day makes for a discussion and 'stirring things up' as it were. However JohnsonD has shown to be incapable of continuing a discussion past a single post, afterwards for the 2nd and subsequent post just throws out insults to all and everyone.. That is not a discussion, that is not stirring things up.

 

So as far as I can tell Sime42 post was nothing to do with the content of any continuing discussion, his comment was related to the continuous steam of insults coming from JohnsonDs keyboard.

[sime42]

 

 

 

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