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  1. 1. Next POTUS?

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Not really Gareth, was it Boris Johnson most recently and his cabinet who fell foul from using whatsapp ? Lost a lot of very important messages (from sender and receiver) when one of them lost their phone access? Not sure about the US government, I assume they are similar but at least in the UK official communications shouldn't go through systems such as whatsapp:

 

Meta (their owners) claim that 'most' communications use end to end security... but not all and the system allows the communications to be 'intercepted' (not quite the right word) and saved on their servers... and so can be viewed on their by anyone with access or snooping about

 

There is no control once you get the message, there is no paper trail easily available if you want to forward that message onwards. With in email systems there is an audit trail as to where e-mails are forwarded and these are saved

 

For the government, and the US government does this too, there is no record keeping, no accountability, the messages bypass the official systems (as we found that the Johnson enquiries were unable to acquire copies of government messeges sent via whatsapp).

 

Now lets consider that they have been in charge for 2 months now, that security brief must have been quite recent, so either they are very stupid to have used the system despite security briefs.... or they did it purposefully to bypass all checks and accountability. Stupid both ways. And then to add in a reporter, and no one took a moment to ask who everyone was on the message? Double stupid.

 

It is OK though, Trump wasn't involved there so you should be OK to say "Yes, the guys are idiots"

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26 minutes ago, peds said:

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While that is a reasonable assertion I think the situation is much, much worse than that; I think the reality is that they think we're all thick as mince, and that they are are deluded  enough to think that we can't tell. 

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See he is getting some stick today for not being briefed about 4 missing solders in Lithuania - might not be his fault but you'd have thought someone in his team would be aware what the press are going to ask him. I get the feeling more and more that he is the 'Emperor' in the 'Emperors New Clothes' where no one wants to tell him bad stuff (also see Stalin, China and North Korea for similar leaders).

 

 

Of course my mind also goes back to his comments a few years ago that solders who get killed or injured are 'losers' and he only like 'winners'. A nice compassionate man

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Man, what a great film. Such a pity the sequels fell by the roadside (so I've heard... the reviews prevented me from watching them).

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