Potus ???

[Steven P]

A prosecution lawyer against a defence lawyer trying to persuade a jury. In the court room the system is one against the other, no politics. All the jury were well scrutinised for impartiality.

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, Steven P said:

Doesn't mean the US chose a good man though does it.

 

Defence by indifference -  I not not think anyone would ever think that Trump didn't know Epstein was sleeping with children ('he likes them young'). The fact that he didn't speak up like any normal adult would have done, shows his indifference to mixing with criminals, particularly sex crimes, and doing what is right.

 

Try to convince me otherwise, but Trump is not a good man. As listed above, they are only a few of his crimes.

 

A curious thought, if Trump raped your wife, watched your daughters changing and didn't speak up knowing a neighbour of yours was abusing children, would your opinion of the man still be the same, would you still be defending him?

You have heard about the many many BBC scandals I take it 🤔

The silence was deafening, actually wasn’t Starmer in charge of cps for a while. 
Try and deal in facts  not hypothetical situations created in your sick head. 

[GarethM]

22 minutes ago, Steven P said:

A prosecution lawyer against a defence lawyer trying to persuade a jury. In the court room the system is one against the other, no politics. All the jury were well scrutinised for impartiality.

Yeah yeah, believe what you will Mr Kier.

 

You are aware of Capone and what he was convicted of I assume?.

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, Steven P said:

I haven't commented on whether any of the others are good or bad people, but I am not popping up here saying how great any of them are either, past present of future.

 

If you were posting images, bragging that your fave president, is man of the year my response would be the same. Trump is no man, he is a rapist, the lowest.

It was Time magazine not me you clown 😂

[Johnsond]

32 minutes ago, Steven P said:

A prosecution lawyer against a defence lawyer trying to persuade a jury. In the court room the system is one against the other, no politics. All the jury were well scrutinised for impartiality.

I wonder how long this conviction will stand or if the judge and prosecutors end up in a bit of a pickle 🤔

Edited December 14 by Johnsond

[AHPP]

Hell's tits, Dave. You're saying that with a quite clear subtext of hope and wishful schadenfreude. Step away from the celebrity. Totalitarianism isn't funny. It's all very funny when your team are winning and then very shit very fast when the other team suddenly has the the conch.

[Johnsond]

14 minutes ago, AHPP said:

Hell's tits, Dave. You're saying that with a quite clear subtext of hope and wishful schadenfreude. Step away from the celebrity. Totalitarianism isn't funny. It's all very funny when your team are winning and then very shit very fast when the other team suddenly has the the conch.

lol not at all, you seem to have missed the effort put in by Biden inc to get rid of political opposition as for KH she was a dangerous nutter quite frankly. 
Anyhow ive lived under SNP left wing control freak style of government for years now, we have a totally incompetent Labour government too so it’s not all sunshine. Totalitarianism where ? I’ve always found the left to be far more into control than any others. 

Edited December 14 by Johnsond

[AHPP]

Two wrongs don't make a right. 

[Steven P]

1 hour ago, GarethM said:

You are aware of Capone and what he was convicted of I assume?.

 

I don't believe Capone was a good man either and tax evasion was just one of his crimes... the one that managed to stick.

 

However for Tump and Capone, both able able to employ very competent lawyers, their lawyers were unable to demonstrate that their clients were innocent. In the case of Trump I believe that the court process was correct - anything incorrect about it would have been picked up and argued about without hesitation.. as it was many times... so what the jury heard to make a decision was correct legally.

 

The punishment set out by the judge however could be politically motivated.. but that was after the unbiased Jury had decided that Trump, calling Carrol a liar was defaming her and in fact Carrol calling Trump a rapist is a statement of fact.

[Steven P]

20 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Anyhow ive lived under SNP left wing control freak style of government for years now, we have a totally incompetent Labour government too so it’s not all sunshine. Totalitarianism where ? I’ve always found the left to be far more into control than any others. 

 

 

Moved to Scotland from North East England? voluntarily... to live under SNP control. You don't have to live there, houses at 'home' in the North East are comparable or cheaper for the same thing.

 

 

Only saying. You don't like it but do nothing to change what you have.