Potus ???

[sime42]

27 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

that is horrible - suggesting he lie low for a bit, just because you don't approve of the way he interacts

At least he's vocal about the trouble a lot of foreigners cause - I mean look at this mess

Mazyar Azarbonyad - sounds a bit foreign, Trump is even setting the stage for deporting US citizens

Imagine some toe rag phone theif from London, born in UK, but still deported to El Salvador.

That young lad has cost the taxpayers a fortune, and with a name like Mazyar it's got to have something to do with immigration. I mean immigration recently, not dating back from Roman times.

We need offensive people like Trump and Farage and JD, to balance out all the Starmer types - Starmer would never insult people on a forum, but his whole government is an insult.

 

Well, that's a surprising sentiment. By any normal standards, (and certainly by JD's own standard), that wouldn't normally be considered a horrible thing to say. 

 

If someone interacts almost exclusively via insults, abuse and bigotry then whatever point they're trying to make rapidly gets lost amongst the unpleasant, tedious noise. Offensiveness doesn't get you very far without at least some rudimentary knowledge of a subject, some ability to form a coherent argument, or even just some oratory skill. Trump being a perfect example of this. He generally talks bollox, but he has a certain way with words that captivates a few people.

 

 

[tree-fancier123]

9 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

Well, that's a surprising sentiment. By any normal standards, (and certainly by JD's own standard), that wouldn't normally be considered a horrible thing to say. 

 

If someone interacts almost exclusively via insults, abuse and bigotry then whatever point they're trying to make rapidly gets lost amongst the unpleasant, tedious noise. Offensiveness doesn't get you very far without at least some rudimentary knowledge of a subject, some ability to form a coherent argument, or even just some oratory skill. Trump being a perfect example of this. He generally talks bollox, but he has a certain way with words that captivates a few people.

 

 

you and SP and recently Yourn come across as more civilized, but its the substance that counts.

It's like Tommy R, now I'm no fan of extreme racism, but TR has a point, he may be offensive, but he is a man of substance, someone who doesn't want to see an ever increasing number of mosques in the UK. 

There are plenty of clever wordsmiths who are also human rights lawyers and would be happy using long words in court to prevent the illegal immigrant from being deported.

They may have words like concomitant, apotheosis, vicissitude etc, but that doesn't make them any better than Tommy. 

And rather than just putting up with JDs way, you have to try to change him - you're basically saying to him 'you should think and behave more like we do'

Bit like the fascists wanted everyone to think and behave like they did

[Johnsond]

5 hours ago, sime42 said:

 

You appear to be completely incapable of engaging in any form of discussion. Insults and abuse do not count as discussion, it's just seen as tedious noise. Rather than resorting to that, you'd look better for lying low for a bit. 

 

§ What's the point of joining a forum if you're not going to contribute anything positive, or even just thought provoking?

 

 

 

 

How is me saying that people should not have to work a shift of the ludicrous duration you mentioned an insult. 
I never once referred to you in my reply.

[Johnsond]

4 hours ago, sime42 said:

 

Well, that's a surprising sentiment. By any normal standards, (and certainly by JD's own standard), that wouldn't normally be considered a horrible thing to say. 

 

If someone interacts almost exclusively via insults, abuse and bigotry then whatever point they're trying to make rapidly gets lost amongst the unpleasant, tedious noise. Offensiveness doesn't get you very far without at least some rudimentary knowledge of a subject, some ability to form a coherent argument, or even just some oratory skill. Trump being a perfect example of this. He generally talks bollox, but he has a certain way with words that captivates a few people.

 

 

Well 42 I have had the same to and fro with usually speaking the same suspects from the ATL on many occasions and in different threads. I have given on multiple occasions reasons or explanations as to where I’m coming from or why etc but you and I know it’s never enough, it degenerates into a question after question after question session. The Covid thread being a classic example where you Peds. SP etc resorted to absolute BS and lies when all else failed. So rather than trying to occupy the moral high ground try keeping it simple, factual and on point rather than trying to talk smart arse shite a lot of the time based upon blinkered and biased assumptions. 

[Johnsond]

4 hours ago, Steven P said:

There is however a massive difference 'stirring things up' and visiting a forum to throw out the insults without any meaningful discussion.

 

On this thread you might like to compare say, GarethM and JohnsonD. Politically I agree with neither. I know I shouldn't name check however will do for the point of discussion. GarethM is able and does hold a discussion together most of the time, which I think is why no one has ever levelled the "how about you give it a break for a while" line at him. He can succinctly make continue a thread without throwing out insults in his second post of the day makes for a discussion and 'stirring things up' as it were. However JohnsonD has shown to be incapable of continuing a discussion past a single post, afterwards for the 2nd and subsequent post just throws out insults to all and everyone.. That is not a discussion, that is not stirring things up.

 

So as far as I can tell Sime42 post was nothing to do with the content of any continuing discussion, his comment was related to the continuous steam of insults coming from JohnsonDs keyboard.

But you did name check didn’t you SP and those few sentences where you try to justify it shows perfectly far better than I could exactly the type of character you are.

Like I’ve said to 42 I’ve on multiple occasions put up reasonable points to you on many different threads. The result on a long running thread from a couple of years ago was you literally resorting to lies, I’ve asked you multiple times as another member did also to provide evidence to corroborate what you said 🤷‍♂️ I’m still waiting to this day for such evidence.

You pick up ( or even count) every post I put up or reply I make which is totally fine with me, but you also have a bad habit of making wildly inaccurate assumptions and comments on a variety of things including my income and tax affairs which you try to pass off as fact. You try very very hard to keep the racist, Islamophobia, homophobia misogyny narrative going and even made comments about my ability as a parent. Yet you do all this from behind a veil of absolute anonymity that the forum provides, you refuse to answer straight questions and often as not like a true politician just waffle shit to avoid giving any relevant response. There’s half a dozen members on here I’ve met, worked with, sold eqpt too or sought advice from in person, I post up the occasional shite pics of my milling, Im ex army, work with large multinational, multiracial teams of various religions 🤷‍♂️if I was 10% of what you try to allude too how long do you think I’d have lasted 🤷‍♂️unlike some people i have bugger all to hide.

Like I said to 42 keep it factual less of the smart arse BS waffle, assumptions and a very very unhealthy interest in my income, and accept that some of us ( thank god) will have totally different political views and for that matter be straight talkers rather than bullshit merchants. 
 

 

[peds]

7 hours ago, tree-fancier123 said:

Tommy R ... is a man of substance

 

It's kind of you to not specify which substance exactly. 

[peds]

 

 

 

 

But now, on to the crux of the matter:

 

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Dr. Lisa Anderson, 58, was born in Pennsylvania and is a U.S. citizen.

 

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- Paul Weyrich, Founder of the Heritage Foundation, Council for National Policy (CNP), American Legislation Exchange Council (ALEC), and the Moral Majority (Religious Fundamentalist Right)

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[Yournamehere]

18 hours ago, Johnsond said:

😂😂😂you actually sat and wrote that waffling shite. 

Which was a surprise.

[tree-fancier123]

2 hours ago, peds said:

 

It's kind of you to not specify which substance exactly. 

I wasn't trying to be kind. I'm not saying he isn't racist - the whole thing is incredibly upsetting, but basically what I'm saying is he's put his life on the line for what he believes in  - and is now in prison because of it.

In todays world we are conditioned to accept newcomers no matter what. Britain is being swamped by foreigners. No I know you man of the world types will never agree with my blinkered views, but I don't mind.

At least the Wall St Journal (who's opinion pieces are mostly critical of Trump) get my view on the real dangers posed by unrestricted immigration - Tommy Robinson is not quite in Trump's league, but they are both right on needing to clamp down on foreigners invading by land and sea.

 

[BillQ]

12 hours ago, tree-fancier123 said:

but TR has a point, he may be offensive, but he is a man of substance, someone who doesn't want to see an ever increasing number of mosques in the UK. 

Does he want the same with Gurdwaras, Synagogues, churches etc?

He has a point and its racist and wrong.