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  1. 1. Next POTUS?

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Posted
44 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Read this earlier this morning 🤔🤷‍♂️lame shite but still a few here might benefit from a quick glance at it.

 

Worry is a scam. A cosmic Ponzi scheme where your brain is both the con artist and the gullible investor. Anxiety is that drunk uncle at the family reunion who won't shut up but also won't throw a punch—just stands there muttering what-ifs like they're prophecy.

Let me say it in a way most won’t dare: you are not in control. Never were. You could duct tape your life to a spreadsheet, triple-check your seatbelt, drink all the green smoothies—and still get tackled by life wearing a clown mask and no pants. The truth is laughable and liberating: you don’t own the future. You lease moments, that’s it.

Stress pretends it’s productive. “I’m just being responsible,” it says. No, you’re not. You’re time-traveling to disasters that haven’t happened, writing horror stories in your head, casting yourself as the victim, director, and critic. Anxiety is imagination abused. And frankly, you’re better than that.

When has worry ever prevented catastrophe? Did pacing the floorboards stop the diagnosis? Did losing sleep add hours to your life or just wrinkles to your soul? Worry doesn’t prepare you. It pickpockets you while convincing you it's helping.

You could die mid-sentence. Mid-laugh. Mid-forkful of cheesecake. And you think overthinking is worth your time?

The birds don’t spiral. The trees don’t panic over tomorrow’s rain. Mountains have stood for eons without a five-year plan. The stars burn unapologetically in their orbits without asking, am I doing this right?

You’ve been gifted this breath. This one. Not the next. Not yesterday’s. This. And it’s enough. It’s always been enough.

You’re still here.  
You’ve survived everything that was supposed to break you.  
And the future? It isn’t yours yet.

Stop borrowing nightmares.  
You’ve got galaxies in your chest and a backbone forged from storms.  
Walk like it.

 

Mind you there last few lines went a bit too far 🤮

 

Mind me where?

Lacks narrative, lacks purpose, lacks merit: just a load of idioms & memes, platitudes & cliches hung out on the washing line of life. It says nothing: read it again: nothing. There is no point made, no argument discussed, no proposition introduced, expanded nor concluded. Is it meant to be comforting? What even is it? Just dozens of t-shirt slogans wrapped up in a bow. A child could do better after half an hour on a motivational poster website. Maybe someone gave the AI machine to many antidepressants.

Shelly it ent.

And no references nor citations as to source. 

Very poor, please don't try harder; your just being boring now.

 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Yournamehere said:

 

Mind me where?

Lacks narrative, lacks purpose, lacks merit: just a load of idioms & memes, platitudes & cliches hung out on the washing line of life. It says nothing: read it again: nothing. There is no point made, no argument discussed, no proposition introduced, expanded nor concluded. Is it meant to be comforting? What even is it? Just dozens of t-shirt slogans wrapped up in a bow. A child could do better after half an hour on a motivational poster website. Maybe someone gave the AI machine to many antidepressants.

Shelly it ent.

And no references nor citations as to source. 

Very poor, please don't try harder; your just being boring now.

 

😂😂you read to much into youratalkingshite,  and spent way way too much time on the reply 👍

Posted
12 hours ago, sime42 said:

 

Seriously, you think he is going to make American "food" healthier? I dont. They invented most of the crap, driven by the need to make ever more profit from food and agriculture. If anything he'll be trying to sneak even more oil derived compounds into his people's mouths. Drill baby drill and all that. Probably not colourings though, that was last century, there's far more harmful and more importantly profitable additives being used these days.

 

Also, don't forget that Trump is still trying to push their growth hormone laden beef and chlorinated chicken onto our UK plates. Our beef is "weak" don't you know!

 

 

 

 

 

Strong beef makes strong men 💪. British beef hasn't exactly had a glowing reputation these past few decades either 🥴.. 

 

Also, other countries that clorinate chicken (From Grok).. Chlorinating chicken, or washing chicken with chlorine-based solutions to reduce pathogens like Salmonella and Campylobacter, is a practice that varies by country based on food safety regulations and standards. Below is a list of countries where chlorination of chicken is permitted or practiced, followed by notes on countries where it is banned or not typically used. Note that "chlorination" here refers to the use of chlorine washes or sprays during poultry processing, not necessarily the presence of chlorine in the final product.

Countries That Chlorinate Chicken

United States

Chlorine washing is a common practice in the U.S. poultry industry, approved by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA). It’s used as an antimicrobial rinse, though its use has decreased in recent years (estimated at less than 10% of processing plants by some sources), with alternatives like peracetic acid gaining favor. The U.S. exports chlorinated chicken to over 120 countries that accept this method.

Canada

Canada permits the use of chlorine-based washes in poultry processing under strict guidelines from the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA). It’s part of a broader pathogen reduction strategy, though not as widely emphasized as in the U.S.

Brazil

As one of the world’s largest poultry exporters, Brazil allows chlorine washes in poultry processing to meet safety standards for export markets, including those that accept U.S.-style practices. Regulations align with international trade partners’ requirements.

Australia

Australia permits the use of chlorine-based antimicrobial treatments in poultry processing under the Australia New Zealand Food Standards Code, though the practice is less widespread than in the U.S. and often supplemented by other methods.

Mexico

Mexico allows chlorine washes in poultry processing, consistent with North American trade practices and standards influenced by its proximity and trade agreements with the U.S.

Countries Where Chlorination Is Banned or Not Practiced

European Union (EU) Member States (e.g., Germany, France, Italy, Spain, etc.)

The EU banned chlorine washing of poultry in 1997, allowing only water for decontamination. The concern isn’t the chlorine itself (deemed safe by the European Food Safety Authority) but rather that it might mask poor hygiene earlier in the production chain. This ban affects all 27 EU countries, including the United Kingdom historically (though post-Brexit, the UK has maintained the ban as of 2025).

United Kingdom

Post-Brexit, the UK has continued to prohibit chlorine-washed chicken imports and does not use this practice domestically, adhering to a "farm-to-fork" hygiene approach inherited from EU standards.

Norway, Switzerland, and Iceland (EEA Countries)

These non-EU European Economic Area countries align with EU food safety rules and do not permit chlorine washing of poultry.

Russia

Russia has historically banned U.S. poultry imports treated with chlorine, citing health concerns, though this has also been tied to trade politics. Domestic practices avoid chlorine washes.

China

China does not use chlorine washes for poultry and has restricted imports of chlorinated chicken, aligning with stricter antimicrobial treatment rules.

Notes

Global Variation: Over 120 countries accept U.S. poultry exports, implying tolerance of chlorine-washed chicken, but many do not use the practice domestically. Examples include Japan, South Korea, and various Middle Eastern and African nations, where import standards differ from local production norms.

Alternatives: In countries where chlorine is less used (even where permitted), alternatives like peracetic acid, lactic acid, or air chilling are common.

Data Gaps: Comprehensive global data on poultry processing practices is limited, as regulations evolve and some countries don’t publicly specify their stance on chlorine washes.

This list reflects practices as understood up to April 5, 2025. If you need more detailed information on a specific country, let me know!

 

 

 

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Posted

My take on chlorinated chicken is that it masks poor hygiene practices in the food chain. There was a report I read ages ago, so no linkm that often the chlorine reduces harmful bacteria but doesn't eliminate them, those with a reduced immune system could still be at risk from food poisoning. I don't think the UK should go down that route, far better to keep the hygiene standards high

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Posted
18 minutes ago, Steven P said:

My take on chlorinated chicken is that it masks poor hygiene practices in the food chain. There was a report I read ages ago, so no links that often the chlorine reduces harmful bacteria but doesn't eliminate them, those with a reduced immune system could still be at risk from food poisoning. I don't think the UK should go down that route, far better to keep the hygiene standards high

And I'm so sure your foaming at the mouth regarding halal slaughtered animals.

 

The whole immune system argument is pointless, if you're stupid enough not to cook meat thoroughly that's on you.

 

Same arguement for those that eat raw or blue steak, you life your risk.

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Posted
41 minutes ago, Haironyourchest said:

 

Strong beef makes strong men 💪. British beef hasn't exactly had a glowing reputation these past few decades either 🥴.. 

 

Also, other countries that clorinate chicken (From Grok).. Chlorinating chicken, or washing chicken with chlorine-based solutions to reduce pathogens like Salmonella and Campylobacter, is a practice that varies by country based on food safety regulations and standards. Below is a list of countries where chlorination of chicken is permitted or practiced, followed by notes on countries where it is banned or not typically used. Note that "chlorination" here refers to the use of chlorine washes or sprays during poultry processing, not necessarily the presence of chlorine in the final product.

Countries That Chlorinate Chicken

United States

Chlorine washing is a common practice in the U.S. poultry industry, approved by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA). It’s used as an antimicrobial rinse, though its use has decreased in recent years (estimated at less than 10% of processing plants by some sources), with alternatives like peracetic acid gaining favor. The U.S. exports chlorinated chicken to over 120 countries that accept this method.

Canada

Canada permits the use of chlorine-based washes in poultry processing under strict guidelines from the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA). It’s part of a broader pathogen reduction strategy, though not as widely emphasized as in the U.S.

Brazil

As one of the world’s largest poultry exporters, Brazil allows chlorine washes in poultry processing to meet safety standards for export markets, including those that accept U.S.-style practices. Regulations align with international trade partners’ requirements.

Australia

Australia permits the use of chlorine-based antimicrobial treatments in poultry processing under the Australia New Zealand Food Standards Code, though the practice is less widespread than in the U.S. and often supplemented by other methods.

Mexico

Mexico allows chlorine washes in poultry processing, consistent with North American trade practices and standards influenced by its proximity and trade agreements with the U.S.

Countries Where Chlorination Is Banned or Not Practiced

European Union (EU) Member States (e.g., Germany, France, Italy, Spain, etc.)

The EU banned chlorine washing of poultry in 1997, allowing only water for decontamination. The concern isn’t the chlorine itself (deemed safe by the European Food Safety Authority) but rather that it might mask poor hygiene earlier in the production chain. This ban affects all 27 EU countries, including the United Kingdom historically (though post-Brexit, the UK has maintained the ban as of 2025).

United Kingdom

Post-Brexit, the UK has continued to prohibit chlorine-washed chicken imports and does not use this practice domestically, adhering to a "farm-to-fork" hygiene approach inherited from EU standards.

Norway, Switzerland, and Iceland (EEA Countries)

These non-EU European Economic Area countries align with EU food safety rules and do not permit chlorine washing of poultry.

Russia

Russia has historically banned U.S. poultry imports treated with chlorine, citing health concerns, though this has also been tied to trade politics. Domestic practices avoid chlorine washes.

China

China does not use chlorine washes for poultry and has restricted imports of chlorinated chicken, aligning with stricter antimicrobial treatment rules.

Notes

Global Variation: Over 120 countries accept U.S. poultry exports, implying tolerance of chlorine-washed chicken, but many do not use the practice domestically. Examples include Japan, South Korea, and various Middle Eastern and African nations, where import standards differ from local production norms.

Alternatives: In countries where chlorine is less used (even where permitted), alternatives like peracetic acid, lactic acid, or air chilling are common.

Data Gaps: Comprehensive global data on poultry processing practices is limited, as regulations evolve and some countries don’t publicly specify their stance on chlorine washes.

This list reflects practices as understood up to April 5, 2025. If you need more detailed information on a specific country, let me know!

 

 

 

 

Do you think Grok will survive the Great Reset?

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Posted (edited)

Likewise, if the hygiene standards are up to scratch then no problem, however in many countries I would be making sure the food is properly cooked. Noting that a lot of UK supermarket meat meets Halal and kosher standard. They also meet UK hygiene standards. Surprised you missed that, it was a big thing in The Daily Mail a while ago

Edited by Steven P
Posted
12 minutes ago, GarethM said:

And I'm so sure your foaming at the mouth regarding halal slaughtered animals.

 

The whole immune system argument is pointless, if you're stupid enough not to cook meat thoroughly that's on you.

 

Same arguement for those that eat raw or blue steak, you life your risk.

 

You're not going to catch much from eating raw or blue steak, it's nothing like chicken for carrying pathogens. The health risk with US beef is the growth hormones, the degree of cooking, or not, does nothing to mitigate the negative impacts of growth hormones.

 

You didn't elaborate on how The Donald is going to make US food healthier. Is this the thing about getting rid of all the horrible seed oils?

 

 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Steven P said:

Likewise, if the hygiene standards are up to scratch then no problem, however in many countries I would be making sure the food is properly cooked. Noting that a lot of UK supermarket meat meets Halal and kosher standard. They also meet UK hygiene standards. Surprised you missed that, it was a big thing in The Daily Mail a while ago

So make your mind up is the USA upto standard or not!.

 

Pretty much all meat is halal or kosher by default, few exceptions may apply for the local butchers as halal or kosher do also types have specific butchers historically.

 

I'm more than aware that both has to meet the standard but if you've ever been in a slaughterhouse it's from from the cute and cuddly and straight into a plastic package image you have in your head.

 

As I've said lots, let the market decide.

I wouldn't be buying meat with anyone other than the union flag, exception of Italian and German cured meats.

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