Potus ???

[GarethM]

1 hour ago, Youngstu said:

That last bit there!

The internet, social and mainstream media cause a huge amount of problems, but they also open people's eyes and ears to viewpoints beyond those they hear at home.

So one of your 6 children (to your knowledge) so far has not sided to your own intollerant viewpoints and you're doing your best to change that!

I'm sure that there are quite a lot of us of a more tolerant persuasion who have to put up with the viewpoints of our  right wing, intollerant and angry parents shouting at the news about everything that's gone wrong with the world. I know for me and many others we've had to learn to put up with it, ignore it, pick our times for an argument, or walk away so as not to have to continuously hear their angry thoughts. But for family peace and as they may not have that many years left we don't bother to pursue trying to change their minds as we may have done in the past.

It is OK for family members to have different viewpoints and for kids to find their own way in the world, just because she doesn't mind how others want to identify, you don't have to draw her into your world in that respect. If she's happy to sit next to Jodie and call her Jodie even though she used to be called James as that's what makes her happy then that's no bad thing, it's about respect for the other person at the end of the day!

Sounds like a second maybe third generation of soft parenting!.

 

Mummy & daddy never said no, but everyone else said No, so the world must be against me mindset. A prince Harry mindset!.

[Steven P]

The crux of it is this last bit:

 

2 hours ago, Youngstu said:

If she's happy to sit next to Jodie and call her Jodie even though she used to be called James as that's what makes her happy then that's no bad thing, it's about respect for the other person at the end of the day!

 

The respect for the other person, if they are happy to dress how they dress, to behave how they behave then we, as a society, should respect that. There is no harm done to me, you or anyone whether Jodie wants to be called Jodie or James. End of really.

 

I take it in the case of JohnsonDs daughters all the brain washing in school you are sooo afraid I am guessing that the school is full of transgender children... or is it just the one and the rest have had no adverse affect on their lives?

 

However with Trumps rhetoric that there is no respect for other sexualities in the US this is going to cause hardship and suffering to those who are not straight. Noting also that intolerances have shown kids being murdered for trying to express who they feel that are. Do you want that on your collective consciences - 'our' view of the world causing enough anger and hate within an individual that they go out and kill another.... simply because they wear a dress or trousers when they are 'not meant to' ? really? 

 

 

It is a divisive policy, designed to create hatred within the US.. and that is what Trump thrives on. Anger, divide and conquer, he would not be where he is today with his negative view of the world politics.

 

 

 

 

Editity...

As for criminalising sex crimes... being gay is now one of them... Trump is on very thin ground if no one is up to speed on my views of the 'man'

Edited January 24 by Steven P

[GarethM]

8 minutes ago, Steven P said:

The crux of it is this last bit:

 

 

The respect for the other person, if they are happy to dress how they dress, to behave how they behave then we, as a society, should respect that. There is no harm done to me, you or anyone whether Jodie wants to be called Jodie or James. End of really.

 

I take it in the case of JohnsonDs daughters all the brain washing in school you are sooo afraid I am guessing that the school is full of transgender children... or is it just the one and the rest have had no adverse affect on their lives?

 

However with Trumps rhetoric that there is no respect for other sexualities in the US this is going to cause hardship and suffering to those who are not straight. Noting also that intolerances have shown kids being murdered for trying to express who they feel that are. Do you want that on your collective consciences - 'our' view of the world causing enough anger and hate within an individual that they go out and kill another.... simply because they wear a dress or trousers when they are 'not meant to' ? really? 

 

 

It is a divisive policy, designed to create hatred within the US.. and that is what Trump thrives on. Anger, divide and conquer, he would not be where he is today with his negative view of the world politics.

What a load of wishy washy hand wring nonsense, the crux of the matter is quite simply.

 

A child at school until 16/18 is what they were born, after 16/18 do as you please but your passport still shows if you've an inny or an outie.

 

There is no discrimination, it's a biological fact. Change your name to Sheila, but the M still remains for security and identity.

 

And no medication, just for clarity!.

Edited January 24 by GarethM

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, Steven P said:

take it in the case of JohnsonDs daughters all the brain washing in school you are sooo afraid I am guessing that the school is full of transgender children... or is it just the one and the rest have had no adverse affect on their lives?

Didn’t think you’d be long SP. Don’t talk about stuff you know nothing of you ****************ing fool. Telling her the truth in the light mannered form of banter we use between us as father and daughter does not make me afraid of anything. As often is the case it’s your sick mind assuming utter nonsense. 

That sort of messed up pandering nonsense is what results in kids suffering from record levels of mental health issues. 
You and YS raise yours to think it’s fine to dress as a girl or boy regardless of sex, to take drugs and undertake catastrophic surgery in order to live out a deluded fantasy and ill raise mine to understand there are two genders only “ male and female” . If they turn out gay 🤷‍♂️so be it but to promote that whole trans LGBTQ shite 🤷‍♂️the pair of you masquerading as parents should be ****************ing ashamed. 

1 hour ago, Steven P said:

There is no harm done to me, you or anyone whether Jodie wants to be called Jodie or James. End of really

Edited January 24 by Johnsond

[carlos]

oh well turns out i too have been masquerading as a parent...... do post up your manual of how to parent properly, sounds like essential reading!!!

[Yournamehere]

The more and more that Gareth and Johnson reply, the more rabid and incoherent they become. It now seems that every post of theirs is like a flag that they run up a pole outside their home upon which they display all the inadequacies and insecurities to the world.

[sime42]

I think you're mixing up correlation with causation again JD. Though I agree that the  explosion of mental health issues for children is a huge problem that needs addressing. Now.

I don't believe that "messed up pandering nonsense is what results in kids suffering from record levels of mental health issues". Not at all. Social Media is the main root cause of that and the mistaken, (in some cases but not all) belief that a young person needs to identify as an alternative gender/sexuality. I'd draw a diagram if I knew how to do it on here. A triangle with three points and two arrows.

Masquerading as a parent doesn't really come into it. If it does it's a very small factor. It could be argued that not pandering could add to the mental anguish actually. After all, you can't pander to a belief that isn't already there. (If there is that belief already then it must have come from something else). I've never heard of any cases of parents actively encouraging their kinder to want to identify as something else just for the sake of it.

Bringing it back to POTUS. His little bunch of tame Social Media barons are the real villains of the piece here. The crap that they're inundating kids with is what's causing the mental health epidemic for them. (Kids are having a rough time if it right now, what with that and the obesity epidemic caused by UPF. They shouldn't have to deal with all this shit at their tender age.) Not to mention all the other harms stemming from Social Media as well. And it's about to get a whole lot worse, just look what Musk and Zuckerberg have been up to in the last few weeks. Who needs fact checking?

[GarethM]

5 minutes ago, Yournamehere said:

The more and more that Gareth and Johnson reply, the more rabid and incoherent they become. It now seems that every post of theirs is like a flag that they run up a pole outside their home upon which they display all the inadequacies and insecurities to the world.

And what's wrong with the world view of leave the kids alone, let them be kids as they were born until the age of 16/18.

 

The lyrics "hey teacher leave them kids alone" has never been more true.

 

By your logic, you're kid says I'm a duck what do you do when you reinforce the delusion and everyone around them does 24/7 ?.

[Johnsond]

20 minutes ago, carlos said:

oh well turns out i too have been masquerading as a parent...... do post up your manual of how to parent properly, sounds like essential reading!!!

It’s served me and my kids very well so far. That’s all that matters to me. 

[Johnsond]

10 minutes ago, Yournamehere said:

The more and more that Gareth and Johnson reply, the more rabid and incoherent they become. It now seems that every post of theirs is like a flag that they run up a pole outside their home upon which they display all the inadequacies and insecurities to the world.

Inadequacies and insecurities 😂😂

Absolute Rubbish 

Bringing kids up in a level headed traditional two gender mother and father environment is that rabid and incoherent 🤷‍♂️. 
Or is the LGBTQ trans madness more to your liking.