Who needs kiln dried...

[skyhuck]

That's true and good luck to you.....

Still daft burning wood to dry wood!

 

How much Pop, Willow and softwood do you sell?

[Richard 1234]

How much Pop, Willow and softwood do you sell?

 

 

Non don't sell any wood at all. Just think the principal is stupid.

Would people still kiln dry in the uk if it was not subsidised?

[Johny Walker]

Non don't sell any wood at all. Just think the principal is stupid.

Would people still kiln dry in the uk if it was not subsidised?

 

 

probaly not,

[gdh]

Non don't sell any wood at all. Just think the principal is stupid.

Would people still kiln dry in the uk if it was not subsidised?

 

Weren't the big companies like certainly wood drying before rhi?

 

In regards to drying wood I get what you're saying about drying wood with wood but if you put a wet piece on the fire it's using its own energy to dry itself anyway.

 

On a commercial scale if we assume wood has to be dried (which customers normally demand) it's just a matter of working out if it's better value to have a large amount cut in the summer and stored in the dry or doing repeated small amounts through the winter with a kiln.

 

Off the top of my head it takes us between 15-18% of our total wood to dry what we sell if that's any use as a comparison.

[cornish wood burner]

Weren't the big companies like certainly wood drying before rhi?

 

In regards to drying wood I get what you're saying about drying wood with wood but if you put a wet piece on the fire it's using its own energy to dry itself anyway.

 

On a commercial scale if we assume wood has to be dried (which customers normally demand) it's just a matter of working out if it's better value to have a large amount cut in the summer and stored in the dry or doing repeated small amounts through the winter with a kiln.

 

Off the top of my head it takes us between 15-18% of our total wood to dry what we sell if that's any use as a comparison.

Certainly wood had a uniconfort global boiler and burnt their rubbish in it when I had a look around. Sawdust, recycled wood and a few logs, presumably short ends etc. so their fuel cost would be very low.

[richardwale]

From experience over the years selling firewood ,a lot of customers burn wood because of its green credentials, if they knew the real cost of kiln drying logs and chips there would be an uproar!

 

It's when it's imported that the carbon footprint becomes a joke. I'm with you, we won't have the heating on this winter, only for the water, and we feel good about being greener by burning wood.

[Woodlandmilluk]

I have a kiln and I don't get any rhi repayments from it and I burn all my crap off cuts from our workshop and scabs from our sawmill. We also take a lot of poplar and conifer arb waste which also goes on it. Along side my milled timber we dry logs. The benefit of the kiln is that you can put green split logs in there and bring them down to 20% within 10 days and if we leave them in longer say another 2 weeks they come down to below 5% .so I would say having a kiln is a benefit because I can do all these geeky moisture meter tests within a month whereas people with out kilns has to wait til the end of the summer to argue whether having a kiln is worth it. And if customers are happy to pay twice as much for kiln dried logs then that's awesome aswell

[openspaceman]

Certainly wood had a uniconfort global boiler and burnt their rubbish in it when I had a look around. Sawdust, recycled wood and a few logs, presumably short ends etc. so their fuel cost would be very low.

 

That was later

 

Originally it was dried using gasoil, which only cost about 10p/litre then.

 

Although RHI wasn't available there were a lot of other grants that paid for the kit.

 

The commercial reality was that the poplar boards were just about worthless and drying them quickly, splitting and packaging as kindling added value to a couple of thousand pounds a day.

 

Once the concept was proven it opened the way to expanding intoi logs in bigger kilns powered by wood (and electricity for the fans) using thermal oil as the heat transfer medium.

[samtheman365]

Naturally seasoned logs are like cake ... getting drier and drier when left out in the air.

Kiln dried logs are like biscuits ... going soft and soggy as they absorb moisture from the air.

[skyhuck]

Naturally seasoned logs are like cake ... getting drier and drier when left out in the air.

Kiln dried logs are like biscuits ... going soft and soggy as they absorb moisture from the air.