Employing foreign staff through agencies

[josharb87]

I thought FB arb groups were to ridicule each other's work, throw out ridiculously cheap prices, threaten each other and sell broken and stolen kit?

 

 

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Yeah the uk groups seem to be so, these are like the equivilant of the AA or ISA national groups and generally stay on topic....until an Englishman comments:001_rolleyes:

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

I have seen a gradual change in that, when the first foreign labourers came over they were the pioneers they recognised what their hard work bought them and worked accordingly.

Now some have bought over their mates and this second generation are not as good, and some of the agencies pull in the lazy ones off the street and punt them over here to make a percentage.

 

Of course this is a sweeping statement and not true for all.

 

The idea that foreign labourers are cheap is not true either, we recently approached and agency the cost for 2 skilled labourers for tree planting was £250 a day and we are to provide accommodation and transport.

 

We have foreign employees and they are paid no different from our U.K. Staff.

 

Personally I do not care where your from as long as the works done how we want it, on time and within budget.

 

That all makes good sense.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Yeah the uk groups seem to be so, these are like the equivilant of the AA or ISA national groups and generally stay on topic....until an Englishman comments

 

Rule Britannia!!

[arbsnips78]

Maby the problem is the initial cost of becoming a climber or ground man. That's why you can't find any body ?

Costs a lot?

 

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[oldwoodcutter]

Generally if you use agency workers you've got your work cut out motivating them, often the week before they were plucking chickens or cutting lettuces out of a field somewhere.

I use a strategically placed advert locally or get them via word of mouth.

The Eastern European lads that have come to us like that have proved to be very hard working and switched on.

Apart from one fellow who, if I understood him correctly, came from Macedonia. That was all he could say in English and was his standard reply to everything I asked him to do.

[Tree Tastic Care]

Yeh . Just to say I can pick a saw up and say I can start it , it's like £350 so that's probably puts people off

[Acer Forestry]

This foreign workers thing gives a false impression.

 

The workers we see coming to the UK are, by the very nature of things, the ones with a bit of get up and go.

 

There are plenty that don't come to the UK, that would give any of our scrounging layabouts a run for their money (figuratively speaking)

 

Very true. when I was backpacking, I didn't have trouble finding work- because i looked for it, and was keen. Mates who were hopeless cases were lucky to make it as far as Calais let alone Sydney, so that point of view I reckon is entirely accurate. People who go seeking jobs elsewhere are normally a little more lively

[D Barry]

I'm a brit expat living in Slovakia, I can source climbers and groundsmen if anyone is interested. The problem is going to be, wages, certificates, accommodation, and in a few cases language. Wages for a climber here in Slovakia are comparable to the UK, I start at 150€ a day, rigging big pops I get 250. ... there's not a lot of work tho... so I go to Germany every now and again where 250 is the average. I think as was said before the pay in the UK is terrible and that is the biggest hurdle

 

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[Marula]

I'm a brit expat living in Slovakia, I can source climbers and groundsmen if anyone is interested. The problem is going to be, wages, certificates, accommodation, and in a few cases language. Wages for a climber here in Slovakia are comparable to the UK, I start at 150€ a day, rigging big pops I get 250. ... there's not a lot of work tho... so I go to Germany every now and again where 250 is the average. I think as was said before the pay in the UK is terrible and that is the biggest hurdle

 

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Pay versus what employers want for that pay in the uk is terrible, I'd agree. I can't count how many times I'd come to the end of a day/job and the employer would chuck in a "while you there" little extra!!!😡 "I know it's 5:30pm but could you quickly remove that small tree? or climb that ivy covered scraggly half dead thing over the house to remove that limb, you know, the one that's level with the only anchor point!"

Why not just tell me it's there at the beginning of the day, or mention there's more than this to do?!

[Ty Korrigan]

I tried to get some English guys over, but accommodation was my biggest hurdle.

 

As for employing foreign arborists, most countries have a national arborist group/council on Facebook. Would be worth a shot. I know the Nordic countries groups

 

Recent BBC article:

 

BBC - Capital - The city with 20-year waiting lists for rental homes

 

Ty