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No, soliciting is giving them money for favours. Paying for something you don't do isn't rape, that why the crime has a different title. Rape is a physical act, bit like Bill in the oval office with a cigar tube, he didn't but instructed her.

If these young women were 16 or 17 at the time it is not really any different to Burlusconi and Ruby The Heart Stealer. Child sex offender - seems shagging anyone under 18 in the states is enough to earn that label

Try contacting the people online who have mentioned they have them I suppose?

I don't doubt your conclusion based on what I see here either, I suspect we may not agree on the main protagonists. that said saws and music can hopefully be a better medium for a more friendly engagement. It has become blatantly obvious the discord on here started long before I arrived and just happened to agree with some of the posters apparently involved in that. I was even accused of being somebody else, simply because I posted in a similar way to another person, you couldn't make it up. B.T.O incoming

I think you might mean the 120cc one? Alpina PRO 120?

Again, no there isn't. It is still raping a child.

Why don't you read what you wrote, soliciting isn't rape is it. Therefore what you keep shouting would be liable as it's legally untrue.

Yes he was.

Legally, yes. A child is considered unable to make an informed decision, and without it that it is rape. Any sex with a child is rape. Any sex with a child is immoral. Why are you tying to defend Epstein?

Do you actually listen to the drivel you lefty types spout, all waffle about how words are sooooo important. Yet you don't actually seem to understand he wasn't a convicted kiddy de fiddler, a wrongun yes, convicted no, bit like Jimmy and Andrew. It's all hearsay, even the files aren't going to prove much of anything, he's hardly going to have written a diary entry detailing it with some scoring system. If video gets released that's a different matter but I'm sure both bill's have wiped those.

I think you are perhaps the first person I've ever heard of, anywhere, who is defending Epstein. Even Marjorie Taylor Green is demanding a full publishing of the Epstein files. There is no scenario here where your defense of a convicted child sex offender is going to further your agenda or reflect well on you. Why you persist is honestly beyond me.

So i posted a few quotes from the Guardian re free speach and the spiralling down of any kind of platform for debate and rationalisation of an issue in the wider context globally and it caused the usual 'he did; 'you did' 'your a libtard / fascist/ paedo' bullshit. Said it before and i still maintain it, this place has become an absolute cess pit of hate and bad communication, for **************** sake Oldfeller bang up some Bachman Turner Overdrive and lets talk about Root Plate assessing and Chain Brake lengths.

From a man that barely understands the meaning of terror...ist. Me thinks you're barking up the wrong tree.

You should quit while you're behind.

Soliciting isn't rape is it, maybe your legal training ended on the first day of work experience. Akin to a sting operation on TV where they arrest the guy for giving money to an undercover cop posing as a prostitute. But like that attorney general, wasn't he a "Solicitor" until he wasn't. It's not defense, it's as you like to keep inferring words have meaning. And you're level of calling him a rapist is beyond obsessive, I don't vote for the labour and their legalise child love party, or MAP as they wanted it calling.

Likewise there was no conviction for Saville... Epstein was convicted of soliciting a minor for sex. That means paying a child to have sex with her. Not alleged, convicted. Maxwell was convicted of suppling children for Epstein to have sex with. Not alleged, convicted. And in defence of Epstein, GarethM.

Agreed I didn’t mention skin colour, but it suits the left wing fools to brand anyone who disagrees as “ racist” etc etc etc

I think you should give it a rest. You are making yourself look like an apologist for paedophillia. Take your mindset and stick it up your arse. Off you trot.

And what's the first word of that phone book of wordage "alleged". No conviction, exactly the same with Jimmy. You're little legal eagle should be able to explain that very important distinction!. You can't convict a dead man, granted you can hang, drawn and quarter them but legally they can be convicted as they can't defend themselves.

Are you an apologist for a convicted nonce? Or are you unaware of his crimes? Jeffrey Epstein Charged In Manhattan Federal Court With Sex WWW.JUSTICE.GOV It's interesting that those on the right of the politcal spectrum, who want to protect women, don't seem to bat an eyelid when a foreign, sex pest, and known associate of Epstien flies over to hobnob with the royals.

Skin colour doesn't come into it, theyre not British nationality is the point. What other country would let convicted terroists in, and house them in 4 star hotels. Surprise surprise they commint more crimes. Hardly appreciative of efforts to help them are they. If these African/middle Eastern countries want to send back any British criminals I wouldn't blame them. But seems British people are getting rather raw end of the deal at the moment to say the least.

I'm not the one obsessively throwing around the unsubstantiated rape allegations against Epstein, with little more than hearsay. Or your unwaivering defense of anyone visiting our shores who enjoys a bit of that sort of thing, because they've not been told not too. You're probably banging a placard outside an army base with your purple hair shouting it's not good enough for these visitors they can have my spare back bedroom, oh wait they'll be an excuse.

More than 500 yards from a school if his attitude to child rapes is anything to go by.

Genetic muckup, perhaps. I have no opinion on whether you send your sister Mother's day cards.