Echo

Electrical components have been around a long time, they are tested and known to work well, I would have no issues with a digital motor in a chainsaw, or a digital controller to run it, there are electrical forums just like there are chainsaw forums, , electrical engineering will be a very big thing in the future as it seems we are going in that direction for our needs, so I would think it would not be a big issue to get an electric chainsaw repaired. They will likely be quite modular, this will make such items easier and more affordable to repair. Arbourists are really biting into the battery powered chainsaw, probably one of the trades that are bennefiting most from that technology. Am also sure there are plenty of peope drilling or punching holes all day and are happy to have a job doing so, and plenty using 9" grinders all day too, what would you suggest they do. Renewable energy solutions are being built every day.

There you go, progress is happening, and if one could put the battery down when using the tool it would be lighter again, or hang it in a back pack with a short lead, it will be figured out rapidly when the petrol / gas ones are banned.

Thats one costly grinder, but Milwaukee always were.

My current grinders are 9" Makitas, I find them light in comparison with the same sized grinders of old, I built dozens of trailors with nothing but a 9" grinder to cut all the steel. That includes 20 ton low loaders, to they dont seem heavy to me. But new tech will lighten them up as time passes too, and batteries would be better in a back pack, so the overall weight would be better distributed.

I saw the video, stout runner, I have two of them, dont know whether to sell them and go all Echo, I honestly like them more than I liked the Echo CS501, which I also had two of, bought me a bunch of SP33G chains for them, so will be looking for something that will take them, the Husky 550xp 2 will.

Wow, never heard of a 9" battert grinder before.

Well if battery tech does not materialize in a suitable format and wattage for the bigger saws, then four stroke certainly could step in, just wondering if the polution gap is close now between the new Two strokes and a similar powered Four stroke.

@billpierce ,what model of makita were you using, or do you know the biggest they currently make.

Yes, it wont be an issue for current owners as parts will be around as long as their saws will last, not meaning they wont last, but if your a regular user the time comes when its no longer fesible to keep any item going, generally not many can split a crank to replace the big end bearing, or would they be into splitting cases and putting in a new crank, parts wear, and everything has its day, newer tech will come along and prove itsself as we continue to enjoy our simle Makita and Dolmars. Next up, lets just throw out the engine and put in a motor, and strap on some batteries. It will boil down to economics, and it could stll be of more value to buy Two of the to be discontinued / outgoing saws than one of the big names, that is still a winning and viable situation.

Looks like its no more Dolmar / Makita petrol saws then

https://sct-germany.de/imgbank/Image/public/images/bilder_chemie/msds/MN7805_2-Takt_Premium_Scooter_EN.pdf

Yes, that rumble is annoying, but propper motor mounts would help that. However improbable it seems now, battery power seems to be the big answer to reducing polution, just like the first computers were huge and heavy we will probably see huge unimaginable advances in battery tech, else we will be like wood peckers at a tree.

Well I sure hope Dolmar makes this clear, as not many will chance a new Dolmar given they are Makita owned, unless it is made very clear that Dolmar is not going anywhere.

And Dolmar had a really nice fourstroke chainsaw too, a guy who used it said it had realy good torque, way less vibes and noise too, and the obvious cleaner running. Only time will show what ther real reason for stopping production is, if its financial or environmental. If all the other manufacturers keep on producing gas / petrol saws then we can only assume there was not enough profit in it for Makita, else we will see the other brands going electric and ditching the gas / petrol models too.

It is world wide, no more Makita chainsaws with gas engines from 2022. Makita have a high powerd chainsaw awaiting for their battery tech people to finalise a worthy battery, its all going to end up battery one day, all the manufacturers are working on them, we already have their smaller models. Battery power will work in the forestry sector better than it will for the likes of farmers or people cutting firewood. Look at the tree in the forest, how many heavy cuts after the falling cut, look at the same sized tree and someone bucking it into firewood. Look at the removal of limbs in the forrest setting, not many, compared to the limbs and braches that get cut in a firewood setting. My point being, battery will work and be viable in the main sector that uses chainsaws, the rest of us will have to adapt to preserve battery power in the field, and then use electric saws to do the major processing in our yards or take a genny or one of those already available towable battery banks to the processing and use an electric saw. This is only my take on the future without gas / petrol saws.

Someone posted that Makita are to stop production of Gas powered chainsaws from 2022, there is a link in the second post too, which I have not yet looked into. Has anyone heard anything from the Dolmar side. http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/dolmar/makita-dolmar-gas-to-end/

Yes, but can an ordinary man diagnose whats up with one of these. I read about people having issues and being told its cheaper to buy a new saw.

Those Makita saws must be about for ten years, minimal upgrades to please the emissions police, that says a lot for their build. Regardless, I hope what ever you decide on suits well.

Tell me, sister had a three yr old diesel one, sent it away in no time, fuel problems, pump. No more volvo. Went back to Volkswagen.

Yes, I am not saying other saw brands are bad, some models gave more trouble than enough, I would have loved my nice new 362 to have been a success, funny story, a guy came along and saw the 6100 cutting, and insisted he wanted to buy it, so I sold it there and then, and off to try the new fangled technology I went, man I was so annoyed, I could have put up with the difficult to clean aribox, and the lighter weight, and the parts close at hand, but I have not had a good experience with getting things sorted, I even was charged for parts that broke hours into work, so to avoid a repeat I sold it on, let the person who bought it see me start it, and at the price I sold it for if the new owner wanted to take it in to Stihl under my name I would have stood by him. You can get a lemmon in any brand, and its that lemmon that makes one question whether of not to try the brand again.

Parts are no good to you for your Stihl, you first need a computer to tell you which part is gone wrong, so that means going to a dealer, and are you going to leave the dealer then taking your saw with you to find the part, probably not, your going to pay more to get the Stihl fixed at the dealers, which I have no gripe with, but you could save by fixing your own Makita, and it probably wouldnt break in the first place. I have had both the MS362 MT and the Makita EA6000, they really are different animals, the Makita has more power, has a very good cooling system, and is very easy to clean down, especially under the top cover, it also starts easier every time. The MS362 wouldnt even start withoug a serious tugging match, it was so bad, I didnt even take it to work, I sold it at a big loss, as I did not fancy trying to convince the dealer it had problems, I would be told to leave it in, wait, wait wait, then I would be told it was fine, then repeat, so no, I got rid of it right away, its also quite a mess under the hood to try and clean, no doubt is was a better balanced and a little lighter, but sitting in the shed because it was a pig to start wasnt going to cut wood.

I think the articele compared the 500i with the new saws like the 572 and an Echo, which would be a carb saw. I wish I had the link. It listed everything, like stroke, bore, cc, kw, hp, fuel consumption and the emission figures, and the 462 was listed too.

Oh it must meet whatever criteria is expected, but with all the modern tech onboard I just dont understand why its not a cleaner saw regarding emmisions.

Thats why I like them, long stroke compared to some of the modern saws, and as you say, slower revving by a little, but this does not hurt a saw in the cut, especially if its a long cut, and if in hard wood its better again, instead of hopping and buzzing at high speed doing nothing with these high rmp machines.

Theres some German test body that passes the saws for use there, I cant find the link as its ages since I read it, but the figures for that saw were the worst regarding emmisions, its also well know it is a thirsty animal, so much for fuel injection, which went the complete opposite way in four strokes, much cleaner, and more economy.