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The 572 certainly gets good press.

MS400 is 225.00 dearer than the 365 if I were to get a 25.00 discount on the 365, so 200.00 more expensive based on asking price of 365

Depends on condition, they are a very good saw, cant get them new anymore. If you get it be careful, very powerfull saw, I wouldnt inform the owner of how desirable they are, assuming its in good shape, he will either know the saw is sought after or not, good luck.

The 572 is talked about here, page 51 posts #1002 and #1003 I could be wrong, and took 2k to mean 2000, one guy quotes around 500 hours, the other 2k and in post #1005 someone alludes to it being 2000 hours. Huskyboy meets the 572xp | Page 51 | Outdoor Power Equipment Forum OPEFORUM.COM Nothing more than breaking the left rear spring mount and replacing the bent handlebar when a tree fell on it. Also...

@spudulike , he seems to be in the forrest cutting full time. If I find the post and where he states his hours I will link it, it sure is a lot of hours, thats why it stuck in my mind.

I have absolutely no reason to question his hours, he is well respected and liked by many. A US site, I have no idea how long the 572 is out.

You get a Makita EA5600, it will run a 20 inch bar, though you can cut a lot of wood with an 18, not a lot of difference unless you are continiousely running out of bar, a tree is rarely the same width much of the way up.

Nice saws, you wont be disapointed.

Ha Ha, a 461, hens teeth they seem to be

Hardwood, I would buy the 572 without batting an eyelid, one guy on another site has 2000 hours on his, that says a lot. But honestly, depending on how long you spend cutting, a good running 562 at the right money could be better, though I would only buy second hand from people I know who take care of their tools, too much rubbish out there thats abused. I dont like the 562 because of its history, and its getting up there in weight, but they seem to have fixed any issues with it, but am probably going to end up with a Stihl MS400, but they are not cheap. EDIT, you do know the xpg has heated handle, the xp does not and is cheaper.

6.5 kg is not that heavey in logs such as you mention cutting, its spot on for the money. It will be different dragging a heavy saw through the woods up hills and such, but that weight will only be a bonus cutting logs in your yard, you just sit the saw on and the weight helps it cut, you should not need to lean on the saw, if you do, the chain needs attention. You are using bar oil I should hope, make sure the oil is flowing from the saw and through the holes in the bar.

I wouldnt spend money on that saw, I mean if the bar and chain are already messed up the new one will just end up the same, they should last quite a while unless your at it on a regular basis, in that case I would get a pro saw. Like others mentioned, a chain needs to be very sharp to cut, one spin against a stone and the edge is gone, the saw will rev more because its not being pulled into the cut, this will smoke the bar and chain, and the engine will take a hit eventually. Did you turn the bar upside down and try a new chain on it, the bar should be rotated evey so often, if you have not done so then the top of the bar being flipped over to face the bottom will rule out damaged rails and with a new or sharp chain the saw should cut. When you say or other saw quit, what quit about it, you can get new parts for them. There is a spark screen in the muffler / exhaust, it often clogs after prolonged use causing very hard starts and very low power, worth checking if the rest of the saw shows no obvious damage.

It would be good if they made this clear, as a lot of people will be put off buying that would otherwise buy a Dolmar, needs cleared up, maybe @shavey could contact Dolmar and ask for a straight answer. Yes the saws have not changed much in 10 years, other than to keep up with the emissions regulations, that says a lot abouth how well they were designed and built. The 7900 and even the 7300 can still compete with the new Husqvarna 572, and for 40% less in price.

Am sure some on here have experience with the 365 or 372, did either give you problems with numbness from the vibes.

Just wondering if you wuold buy an xtorq 365 over a modern saw of similar size. The AV figures dont look apealing compared to modern saws, is it worth going more modern to get the better AV. The rest of the saw I would have no qualms about. The modern version, the 565 has better AV, but they are as expensive here as the new Stihl MS400, which is lighter more powerfull and has better AV figures. Its so long since I had my 372 I cant recall if I was buzzed by the vibes or not.

Dam disapointing, I like the brand too, and was / am looking for a bigger saw, am stuck now for what to do next, maybe I will have to go to Echo, or bite the AT / MT bullet.

Maybe some of you guys on here have a second hand saw that would suit the posters needs. And to the OP, is there a possability you could hire a large saw and fly through your cutting in a day or so, that would get you out for now if you are stuck.

18 to 20 inch wood, if you want to cut it quickly then you need power and a sharp chain, something in the 60cc range, if you want to be more economic and have the time to run a less powerfull saw then at least 50 cc 's would be required. The best bang for your buck would be a Makita EA5600, its 54cc 's and will do what you want without issue.EA5600, they are the same saw in different colours, the guy using it, @shavey is on here, its being compared to a 60cc saw in the video. Give him a call or send a PM, he sells these saws, might even have a good used one, he knows his stuff and is decent to deal with.

I say it should be a protected species, we cant grow it fast enough and if we cut it all down what then, I understand the older trees need to be cut before they rot and are useless.

Yes, users have a lot to do with it, I never burned out a power tool, yet every shead I was in as I welded to the country was full of burned out grinders, drills and welders, some people are tough on tools. We will get there though, am looking forward to what the future holds for the chainsaw, and indeed the whole forest industry, climate, foreign insects and God only knows how many other influences will all play a part in how we go forward, am just enjoying what we have while we have it.

I agree, the 500i has not proved its self yet, but if I had to guess, the fuel injection system will be the least likely part to fail, I saw a tear down of one, component wise theres only a few electrical parts, the dam powere going through the bearings and the mechanical components is what I would worry about in that saw. I agree about the heat issues with electrics, but I have never had a motor fail in an angle grinder, so why would it fail if I put it in a chainsaw, with adequte ventilation, and as regard controllers, plenty of places to put them in the airstream just like they do inside a generator, the diodes and control card can be cooled by the air leaving the motor, for Makita who are in the motor business for a very long time, this will all be a piece of cake, the battery will be the killer to get right. You say plastic, thats ballistic grade plastic, and will be exellent in a chainsaw. Yes, esc 's are always being cooked, they are difficult to place on the drone so you get air going to them, the rotors are no help as putting them under them would result in lost lift, but in a chainsaw, we do not need lift, unless we want to fly to the top of the tree and start pruning.

I dont know what kwh my car uses in a week, but I would hate to try and take that power from the wall socket, and probably hate the bill for doing so even more.

My experience is only with generators, they are very reliable, very little electronics other than a control board, mixing desks full of electronics, rarely ever fail, plenty of connections to get loose too, I think electronics are pretty much very reliable and robust. There is no highly technical requirements for a chainsaw motor, or the neccessary components to make it work, such components are not expensive at all. We are not talking about a jumbo here.

I have concerns about it all too, there is a huge push on building new windfarms, mostly off shore now, and to me they are a great advancement and will save to no end on fossil fuels. My issue is with the manufacturing of these so called green cars and such, they take a lot of resources to create, the materials used in the batteries and motors are costly to mine and produce, and if we were all to somehow get ourselves an electric vehicle, the smart asses behind it all already know there is not enough copper and other materials they need to replace the current volume of vehicles we use, let along keep up with any further demand. I think too that it is crazy to have a society totally dependant to electricity, the national grid for one will melt down, convert your weekly kw number for running your car into electric and hang that off your wall socket and see what happens, let alone the whole country doing so. I think we are in for a big let down when things go wrong and the backups are all crushed and sent for recycling.

Strato engines by their nature run hotter, and get heat soaked the longer they run, its like when you press the trigger on a propane torch, you gets a lot of heat when that oxygen gets injected, just saying, I like the non strato engine that can meet the same emissions criteria. Does anyone know if the 881 has a coating on the piston like the MS400. I think that coating is Stihls answer to combat the heating caused by strato charging, Husky are working on a Magnesium piston treated with a coating too, I doubt that is a coincidence and more a response to the same problem, heat.