"Our winter fuel payment goes into the holiday kitty"
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George Sandeman & Nabiha Ahmed
BBC News
Pensioner Jon Harvey, a retired police officer, is among those pensioners who say they do not need the winter fuel payment
“The money is just for the holiday kitty,” says Jon Harvey of the £300 he was given every winter to help with heating bills. “I could also use it to go out for a nice meal.”
The 80-year-old, like all pensioners in England and Wales, was given the winter fuel payment (WFP) automatically – until this week when the new Labour government voted to change the rules.
Now only pensioners who qualify for certain benefits will receive it, an estimated 1.5 million people. Last winter 10.8 million people got the payment.
Jon, a retired police officer, tells us “it’s about time” the rules changed as “there are people who need it more than me”.
The policy, launched by the last Labour government in 1997, costs nearly £2bn per year but Sir Keir Starmer hopes the changes will save taxpayers £1.5bn.
The prime minister says it could help plug the £22bn "black hole" he says exists in the national finances - but the Tories and charities fear it could leave some over-65s cold this winter.
Beyond the political fray, the argument is nuanced - so the BBC spoke to pensioners to hear the full range of views. Some told us they rely on the payment for heating, while others said they spend the money on things like holidays, restaurants or their grandchildren.
Pensioner Olwen Jones standing on a beach with sailing boats in the bay behind her, says she gives her WFP to charity
Olwen Jones says she has been given the WFP for the last four years and gives it to charity
Olwen Jones, 70, has been receiving the payment for the last four years since retiring from her job in IT.
“I thought about giving it to my brother the last time I was given the payment, except he started getting it himself. Now, I give the money to charity,” she says.
The payment acts as a bonus to the bank balance for Nick Plowright. “My mother, who died back in 2019, was also receiving it for many years. When she did, she'd tell us to give it to the grandchildren,” the 68-year-old explains.
He adds: “The government needs to make the means testing rigorous, right minded and focused on helping those most in need. Above all, stop paying it to the millions who very obviously do not need it, like me.”
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