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That’s just it though they do leave and start up then do they pay lads top money?

Do you think those that leave and set up their own gig pay £150 to groundies?

I COULD GO FOR THIS Aussie (ex PM) Tony Abbott sums it up beautifully!----- It’s pretty hard for Britain’s friends, here in Australia, to make sense of the mess that’s being made of Brexit. The referendum result was perhaps the biggest-ever vote of confidence in the United Kingdom, its past and its future. But the British establishment doesn’t seem to share that confidence and instead looks desperate to cut a deal, even if that means staying under the rule of Brussels. Looking at this from abroad, it’s baffling: the country that did the most to bring democracy into the modern world might yet throw away the chance to take charge of its own destiny. Let’s get one thing straight: a negotiation that you’re not prepared to walk away from is not a negotiation — it’s surrender. It’s all give and no get. When David Cameron tried to renegotiate Britain’s EU membership, he was sent packing because Brussels judged (rightly) that he’d never actually back leaving. And since then, Brussels has made no real concessions to Theresa May because it judges (rightly, it seems) that she’s desperate for whatever deal she can get. The EU’s palpable desire to punish Britain for leaving vindicates the Brexit project. Its position, now, is that there’s only one ‘deal’ on offer, whereby the UK retains all of the burdens of EU membership but with no say in setting the rules. The EU seems to think that Britain will go along with this because it’s terrified of no deal. Or, to put it another way, terrified of the prospect of its own independence. But even after two years of fearmongering and vacillation, it’s not too late for robust leadership to deliver the Brexit that people voted for. It’s time for Britain to announce what it will do if the EU can’t make an acceptable offer by March 29 next year — and how it would handle no deal. Freed from EU rules, Britain would automatically revert to world trade, using rules agreed by the World Trade Organization. It works pretty well for Australia. So why on earth would it not work just as well for the world’s fifth-largest economy? A world trade Brexit lets Britain set its own rules. It can say, right now, that it will not impose any tariff or quota on European produce and would recognise all EU product standards. That means no border controls for goods coming from Europe to Britain. You don’t need to negotiate this: just do it. If Europe knows what’s in its own best interests, it would fully reciprocate in order to maintain entirely free trade and full mutual recognition of standards right across Europe. Next, the UK should declare that Europeans already living here should have the right to remain permanently — and, of course, become British citizens if they wish. This should be a unilateral offer. Again, you don’t need a deal. You don’t need Michel Barnier’s permission. If Europe knows what’s best for itself, it would likewise allow Britons to stay where they are. Third, there should continue to be free movement of people from Europe into Britain — but with a few conditions. Only for work, not welfare. And with a foreign worker’s tax on the employer, to make sure anyone coming in would not be displacing British workers. Fourth, no ‘divorce bill’ whatsoever should be paid to Brussels. The UK government would assume the EU’s property and liabilities in Britain, and the EU would assume Britain’s share of these in Europe. If Britain was getting its fair share, these would balance out; and if Britain wasn’t getting its fair share, it’s the EU that should be paying Britain. Finally, there’s no need on Britain’s part for a hard border with Ireland. Britain wouldn’t be imposing tariffs on European goods, so there’s no money to collect. The UK has exactly the same product standards as the Republic, so let’s not pretend you need to check for problems we all know don’t exist. Some changes may be needed but technology allows for smart borders: there was never any need for a Cold War-style Checkpoint Charlie. Irish citizens, of course, have the right to live and work in the UK in an agreement that long predates EU membership. Of course, the EU might not like this British leap for independence. It might hit out with tariffs and impose burdens on Britain as it does on the US — but WTO rules put a cap on any retaliatory action. The worst it can get? We’re talking levies of an average 4 or 5 per cent. Which would be more than offset by a post-Brexit devaluation of the pound (which would have the added bonus of making British goods more competitive everywhere). UK officialdom assumes that a deal is vital, which is why so little thought has been put into how Britain might just walk away. Instead, officials have concocted lurid scenarios featuring runs on the pound, gridlock at ports, grounded aircraft, hoarding of medicines and flights of investment. It’s been the pre-referendum Project Fear campaign on steroids. And let’s not forget how employment, investment and economic growth ticked up after the referendum. As a former prime minister of Australia and a lifelong friend of your country, I would say this: Britain has nothing to lose except the shackles that the EU imposes on it. After the courage shown by its citizens in the referendum, it would be a tragedy if political leaders go wobbly now. Britain’s future has always been global, rather than just with Europe. Like so many of Britain’s admirers, I want to see this great country seize this chance and make the most of it. Tony Abbott served as Prime Minister of Australia from 2013 to 2015

The decision to use trident isn’t ours alone, it’s our contributions towards NATO soo if they say fire we all bear the consequences not just the UK same as it won’t be just the UK who has the keys to the red button.

No leader of any country gets a say now!

Just to add, look at how the EU throws it’s weight around now, could you imagine them with an army!!!! Scary thought!!!!

Hmm deterrent = trident An EU army run by the unelected lot at the helm of the EU is no good thing! Pretty sure if Russia overstepped their mark Nato would put an end too it.

So I’m not trying a new rope @Steve Bullmansame rope just a different colour ? eh we’ll at least I know I’ve ordered a good rope! I’m on the SJ3 anyone tried it with that? Although if it is the same I suppose I already have with no complaints! Next rope I buy I’ll have to move away from Yale so I can really say I’m having a change.

What’s everyone’s favourite at the mo and why? Yale Hederas been my go to for a good while now, nice and supple and a joy with mechanical devices but I thought I’d have a change so just ordered some blue tongue.

Ok soooooo next question, how hard is it to get a vehicle changed to Ag spec?

Do you need a tach?

Is there a way to get around vosa checks etc if your only knocking around locally? A 7.5t appeals but a tach and the 3monthky checks or whatever they are don’t.

Well that’s shit!! What’s everybody using now then?

Anybody use Arb pro? Is it worth the money?

I’m not sure why people keep saying we are isolating ourselves??? surely we are opening ourselves up to the rest of the world, which you know is bigger than just the EU. We will also still trade with the EU fact. Another little example of the EUs micro management is the fact that they are now trying to do away with us moving the clocks forwards and backwards!! Why? Why does our time being inline out out an hour matter? EUs latest is to try and stop us changing our tax laws and rates so when we leave we can’t become a business haven they want us in line with them hmmm why is this?! They are shit scared of us leaving and prospering because if we do other nations will find a way to leave and the little elite club will fall. I have nothing against individual nations within the EU I just don’t like the establishment running it.

Thanks Bob awesome step by step! Okay next question? Anyone know how much and how difficult for a tracked conversion kit? May look into it in spring.

Thank you, I have the flywheel off and going to pick up a 60mm socket up tomorrow, I’m gona keep as standard as just looking at it off tells me making them greasable is a problem in itself and to be fair it’s done 1400 hours on its original bearings and I’ll have upgraded before it does that amount again so this new set will see me out.

This is what’s pissing people off, your attitude. If if you are mentally ill/suffering ptsd how are you aught to be doing something and not stewing when your mind is fragile and broken? Unless of course you hold all the answers to treating mental health? Its easy for the able minded to say move on, forget it, and do just that. It’s very hard however for the able minded to understand mental health and be aware that a fragile mind won’t operate/think/work the same as it once did. Not sure whether you understand mental health or your ignorant to it? Maybe both.

Treatments and stats are swayed when it comes to mental health though! If you break your arm a Dr/surgeon can fix it, if you have a mental health issue and the Dr. Doesn’t fix you then you where fucked anyway! It’s immeasurable and targets can’t be hit hence the shortage and ignorance in funding. You really dont don’t know what your talking about on this one! To prove it I challenge you to create a solution PTSD using the kick up the arse method. Bearing in mind the guys from the era you mentioned where whiskey addicts sooooo didn’t kick themselves up the arse but drank themselves into a stupor.

Drink and smoke themselves to an earlier grave! Back then therapy and mental health was even less known about so problems where less broadcast/known about BUT they still definitely existed with the same squaddie I’m ok mentality. Also social media and the internet has helped massively in identifying/learning about problems due to anonymity! Its at at this point @VespasianI play the if you haven’t experienced the forces you wouldn’t understand card, quite simply because you don’t understand and no end of watching YouTube will help you to.

Plant Berberis.

Because he was trained to adapt and overcome we are a strange bunch and no Vesp it’s not pride it’s engrained that we can get out of any situation with only what we have to hand unfortunately @stihlmadasever Mate we ain’t used not programmed to ask for help, heck probably don’t know when we need it.

Yes making it greasable would be a dream, cool flywheel our and to eng firm it is, thanks by the way.

@Vespasian you don’t know how someone will react to active duty before they have been on active duty, it’s a suck it and see situation as mental health can’t be visually measured. Basic training and phase 2 training whittles out the people who aren’t capable but it doesn’t mean the capable can’t go awry, we are all only human after all. PTSD is a funny one, people who claim to have it probably don’t those who genuinely have it are diagnosed and a lot of those are ex/servicemen/women due to what they have been through and seen. The forces used to have a great program where if you where injured badly you’d have a job for life in admin however Blair put paid to that by making all forces admin online on a computer program which saved wages on admin staff which a lot where as I said previously badly injured and could no longer serve on the front line. Its a great thread this where the answers are difficult to come by, the solutions vary as the ptsd problem the solution is not money per se, it’s a service that’s needed to counsel our guys after and offer guidance however the homeless issue well that needs money per se to offer shelter and food etc.

How hard are they to change, will I need a bearing press or not? I have no problem stripping down and getting to them, just want to preempt if I’ll be taking my flywheel to an engineering firm?