Johnsond

The exact quote by mr cropper was who the **************** do you think you are, for which I’m still waiting for him to give me the explanation of where I said the things he reacted too, let’s not argue ****************s here and ****************s there his outburst was out of line. You seem to like the word stupid along with clown which somewhat backfired a bit. Not sure if this is a word you use often at people whom have a different view to you but there are several on here and many more outside of the forum that totally disagree with the lockdown method of dealing with this. Does it reduce infections on a temp basis yes of course it does but at what overall social, economic, health both mental and physical cost and is it sustainable, and invariably the rollercoaster starts again as soon as the lockdown ends. the talk of a 3rd national lockdown would say that the previous 2 have not been enough, Wales has had this lockdown medicine more than anywhere in UK and what has it achieved??. A year into this and we are still being fed the same line to justify it. Andy for example quotes Norway it has had a totally different approach as have others,does that make them stupid !!. By the way take a look at UK government statistics for average life span, average covid death age and where we are numbers wise for deaths this year/winter as opposed to the previous twenty you might be very surprised. Although it may not suit the narrative you subscribe too. End of the day as I’ve stated full on debate is fine but whilst I don’t give a flying **************** in reality about you or mr cropper and what you think, you both hit the keyboard buttons hard yesterday based upon nothing more than me having a different opinion to you both.

No you didn’t you chipped in as we often disagree, you saw the opportunity and threw a few quips in 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️no problem with that it’s an open forum at the end of the day. Lively, passionate and at times aggressive debate and opinions are what it should be about. Not much fun or validity on a forum where everyone agrees. Things get taken to another level when you are told to go **************** yourself for no good reason or are referred to as stupid or a clown based upon your opinions. Seemed like a few jumped in and passed comment without actually reading what I did and didn’t say. Mr Cropper has been asked numerous times to back up the comments in his outburst but alas he has apparently very conveniently spoke his last word on the matter. Regarding the stupid and clown comments I’m sure the penny has dropped by now 😆🤡🤡. Water off a ducks back bud I learnt a long time ago not to worry too much about other people’s opinions in particular when it’s people whom I’ve never met and even more so when those opinions are punched out from behind the safety of a keypad.

I don’t know you well enough to use first names, When you start throwing insults online the term generally used is keyboard warrior. I’d have much preferred the last word to be an explanation and to show me where I said the things you accused me of earlier on today when you asked me who the **************** I thought I was 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ I’ve asked several times yet you fail to show me where it is these comments are written. It’s not much to ask bearing in mind the vitriol you spat out earlier and what others now seem to be throwing about.

Indeed. Always seems to be the same few individuals doesn't it? Nope Not at all Zero insults thrown around by myself here, I’ve a different opinion to yours on many things. That’s about it.

You worked it out yet ?? 😆you have haven’t you 🤡🤡

Lol stop count to ten and have a little think about that post what you’ve just written I think you will be the one wearing the red nose bud, there’s a few on here today puffing the chests out and punching the keys I see

This is the problem on here as soon as someone disagrees the comments like yours start. Am I really that stupid 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ You obviously feel the whole lockdown process is the way forward. You don’t know me you dont know what ive done throughout this farce, so in your book anyone whom disagrees with your opinions ref covid is stupid. Cropper has had ample invitations to show me where I said the things that offended him so badly, he will struggle massively because as he knows I didn’t say it, I’m not the only one on here whom totally disagrees with the blanket lockdown process. What you had me down as is neither here nor there to me.

Really????!! Yep really Go through any of my posts and see if I’ve asked anyone who the **************** they think they are based on something they didn’t say.

I don’t deny any of that nor would I try and downplay anyone else’s personal experience or grief caused by this situation , I still stand by my conviction that lockdowns are doing as much if not more damage long term that Covid ever will. People’s perception of the severity of this is bound to be based upon personal experience, I’ve certainly got no faith in MSM after the last 10 months. The reaction earlier by others was based on what ?? Having a different experience or opinion of the severity of and actions to be taken in regard to COVID 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

You obviously have time to reply, I’m still waiting for you to point me to where I said the stuff that outraged you.

That’s genuinely unfortunate but as I’ve asked several times now where did I mention Boring or your wife being a statistic or anything that justifies the who the **************** do you think you are comment. After an outburst like that I’d say asking for an explanation is not too much 🤷‍♂️.

Cheers I thought I was maybe being a bit sensitive

I’m still waiting for you to point out where I said such things that you felt required the reply you posted. That’s a simple request.

Come on then, as I’ve asked please point out to me where in that post is it that I said what you are quoting above 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️If I cannot read correctly or you have somehow managed to totally misconstrue what I meant then there is possibly some confusion here. But I tend not to think so you came out all guns blazing, hitting that keyboard full of faux rage. The numbers are on yesterday’s gov website by the way.

Just reread my post several times can you let me know where I said it was boring me or I mentioned your wife and statistics in the same sentence???. I don’t think I’m ****************ing anyone as you so eloquently put it but what I don’t do is throw out abuse from behind the safety of a keyboard.

You don’t know my personal circumstances, J speaks with a degree of common sense on protecting those whom need protection. The numbers do not justify the actions. I’ve thought that from day one and still do. You cannot just Lockdown a country indefinitely. I have family and friends who have had it including two NHS staff, they all are of the opinion that blanket lockdown is not the way forward. Do as cropper did throw the abuse and self righteous verse my way, I can deal with that no probs. Sadly thousands succumb to various illnesses every winter as a previous post alluded to,I’m sure one day it will be my turn as is the way of things.

Listen bud not once did I use obscenities or say that anyone was lying or indeed a statistic or mention the word boring , you’ve added bells and whistles to that big time . I’d hazard a guess and say you’d likely not speak to people in such a manner if they were stood in front of you.

I keep hearing these examples on this Forum of this fit one and that healthy one who had it and are still floored by it etc etc , whilst I’m not deriding people’s own experience or saying this is not the case this is most certainly not my experience or the experience of those who have had it that I know. There are some on here claiming to know literally dozens of people whom have had the virus and it’s invariably a horror story. Big J quotes confirmed statistics. The symptomatic people I know young and old described either very little or moderate to bad Flu like symptoms 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️I’m no Doctor or expert but this rollercoaster of lockdowns is helping no one in any way shape or form.

Briefly seeing as I ain’t got the book to hand in what respects has it changed your perspectives ?

Yesterday’s numbers for Uk deaths I think stood at 445 approx, for a change they put in the fact that only 11 of those had no serious known existing health conditions confirming yet again that for the vast amount of people this is not the death sentence MSM would have you believe. There seems to be an enthusiasm from politicians and scientists to head for yet another full on ineffective socially and economically destructive lockdown regardless of how dismally they have failed previously. Record cases of a flu like virus are as you say not a new winter phenomenon.

What an earner for pharmaceutical companies.

I’d agree with the Wealden stuff being top notch, use one of the cutters to flatten Elm/Oak slabs, in a different league to most of what you find in screwfix or B&Q type places.

That’s it you’ve cracked it 🙄 give that control freak Drakeford a ring tell him the reasons multiple lockdowns have failed and hopefully another stricter lockdown will work 😜😜😜😜

Watching the celebrations in NZ and Aus on the news and got to thinking of the difference between those islands and ours ref how they handled the virus, I wonder what the outcry would have been from within the UK and Europe if Boris had closed the borders and hit people with restrictions to the extent they did. looking at the shit show Macron instigated I don’t think it would have went well. In reality situated where we are and being so closely tied to Europe would it have even been possible. I know from talking to mates and family over in Aus that the acclaim received by the authorities from overseas about how they handled things is not universal from within its own population.

Maybe the police will observe from a distance do nothing and may even take the Knee 🤮🤮