Vespasian

How is me making an argument trolling?...

obviously I'd boot said dog in its own seed sack.... whats your point?...

having a dog on a lead is not in itself keeping it under control.. its also contingent on who's got hold of the lead..

GaryPrentice suggested she might be getting on, made it sound like she was hobbling around on a zimnmer frame so he did...

And if your sister in law had the strength to control her dog she wouldn't be in the predicament she found herself in...

Oh but I do, I've made some good points and no one has pointed out any faults with my argument..

Your sister plainly hasn't the strength to keep the dog under control, the other dog is of no consequence.. her dog should of been restrained from biting the other dog, whether she likes to hear that or not.. thats the problem. she needs to reconsider having greyhounds, these dogs are extremely dangerous and shouldn't be considered as pets in my opinion.. especially for someone getting on in yrs.. I'm not debating the merits of paying off a fine or compensation.. thats a different matter altogether.. but I'll chime in if you insist... The point here is only keep a dog you have the strength to control.. whether your fifteen or goin on seventy...

As Stefan Molyneux would say...............not an argument.

If a dog was off the leash aiming to attack my dog, I'd pull my dog behind me and get it out of danger.. then I'd make like I was gonna kick the offending dog to concentrate its mind so to speak.. if after all that it was still seriously attempting to bite my dog, I'd boot it in the nuts as hard as I could.. not to mention the owner... You make a good point about Stubbies sister, didn't consider that... but it does bring us back to the meat of the matter.. taking out a dog you can't control. time Stubbies sister gave up having rescue greyhounds.. she needs to take on rescue dogs she can easily manage considering her age.. Its just bad luck its took an incident like this to prove a point.. only get a dog you can manage/control..

I intend getting a cross sponge on a piece of string as you call em.. I like friendly looking dogs myself.. something with a bit of fun in em..

Bolton, westhoughton for the most part.. Blackburn as well but was shut down earlier than the others..

nothin you can tell me about greyhounds, spent yrs round em. used to race em at the dog tracks.. well my dad and his mates did.. I could tell you some stories about the goings on in that game...

I'm busy watching one mon walking the length of Scotland at the minute.. looks like something I fancy doin one day.,..

if a dog bites a chunk of flesh out your mothers ankle you'd be fine with that.. somehow I don't think so.. if the owner went on to tell you it was a lovely dog mostly I doubt it would cut any ice as well. bear in mind this lady was in her eighties.. late seventies.. I used to train greyhounds for my father yrs ago, my job was to walk em out.. sometimes one sometimes three at a time.. believe me I knew to keep em under control. never had any problems, even on the odd occasion someone else dogs would attempt to attack em.. hold the dogs behind me, and threaten to kick the other dogs in the nuts... mostly people were besides themselves that their dog was attempting to get at the greyhounds.. I had great patience in those conditions as I knew they were embarrassed by their dogs bad behavior.. on the other hand if the dogs attacking were sturdy looking I'd be tempted to let my dog off the lead and let em ave it...

Similar incident with with an old lady I do her garden, didn't see her for a few weeks.. She was walking her puppy, pet cockapoodle. A fella walking his mates dog out, dog went to attack her dog.. she pulls away her dog, its bolted behind her legs, the dog attacking breaks its leash and attacks the old lady instead.. her left ankle is bitten and the dog it rips at her ankle tearing a half pound of flesh from back of her leg.. Six weeks in hospital.. the owner of the dog that attacked her claims it wasn't his fault as it wasn't him that was out walking it.. the dogs in police custody, or was.. he's appealing an order to have it put down as a dangerous dog. I think he's missing the point that the dog is dangerous and needs to be dealt with.. not a fan of putting down dogs but sometimes it has to be done.. especially if its done some serious injury.. Concerning your in law, it has killed another dog, which begs the question, did your sister in law relax the length of the lead to teach the owner of the small dog a lesson.. seems to me that that is whats happened.. not realizing how dangerous the greyhound can be.. and if she didn't let off a bit of slack on the lead, then she's culpable in my opinion.. she didn't have control of the dog.. I've walked greyhounds out for yrs and knew to keep em on a short leash.. A small dog snapping at a greyhound ankle is easily dealt with, so shouldn't be a problem.. an irate owner is a different matter.. one tends to want to let the dog loose to teach the other dog owner a lesson..

A banker is asked by three immigrants to lend them money.. One was a doctor from Syria, One, a Lawyer from Canada, and One a retard from Africa... Guess who didn't get the money... Three men went for a job, Black man who worked like a trojan, a White man on drugs and a pregnant woman.. brash dragging for an arborist... guess who's getting the job... Banks are forced to give mortgages to the low paid and economically inactive... guess what they do. sell the mortgages to a third party lest its they that get lumped with the bill when those they know can't pay wont pay... As to Corbyn, he'd demand banks lend to the retard, to give a job to the drug addled, and in so doing force banks to close.. He's a well meaning idiot.. thats why he's dangerous...

I'm all for this sort of thing, though I wouldn't want to go so far as a right.. a partnership, you get a roof over your head, you act as a good citizen.. Universal income as well, give everyone a fixed income, money earned afterwards is a bonus... prison reform as well, instead of what we have today. we have spartan accommodation without heating.. no telly no nothing.. just hard graft and physical punishments.. birch whip or cane.. beat em down and keep em down.. you play nice in society or you go down hard in prison..

Hahahaha I bet you missed me didn't you ratman when I was banned for a time... see your gettin back into the swing of things... is this you...

Smoker givin up in a day or so... don't drink for the most part.. hangovers ain't my thing... And yes both are drugs.. but both ain't hard drugs... thats somethin in it?. and theres a difference between drink an hard drugs.. one is a solitary experience one a social experience.. If I had to choose between the two it would be alcohol..

I thought the assumption was that drugs lead to mental illness.. isn't that the assumption?. I was on the other hand was suggesting the opposite, that mental illness leads to drug abuse... in a round about way.. and if I'm not mistaken I was also suggesting that people who might be subject to those types of illnesses be forewarned in the classroom.. teach them that they are particularly vulnerable to the dangers of drug abuse and thus direct them away from drug use early in life... Teachers know who these types are.. its a well known fact teachers can spot those who they know will end up in prison in later life, its not a stretch to see they can see the mentally unstable.. Its not like its likely to stop substance abuse in general, but at least it might save some from themselves in later life.. And its a better strategy than doing nothing and waiting on events.. don't you think?...

The only person who can tell if you have the mental strength to cope with drug use is oneself.. And I don't by the illness thing as well.. some people can spend all their lives on drugs, they cope easily enough.. are they ill?.. Its not an illness its self abuse by those who shouldn't go anywhere near drugs of any sorts... I've taken a couple of types of drugs, marijuana speed and LSD.... on only one occasion did I have a positive experience.. most times I ended up regretting the experience within hrs if not minutes.. Taught me that I wasn't on the spectrum of people who can use drugs.. cigs and drink excluded... Friends have offered me drugs over the yrs but I have the mental fortitude to refuse their kind offerings.. I ain't on the spectrum and I know it. thus I have the will to refuse to partake.. The weak minded, the easily influenced might on the other hand give in to their short term pleasures over their long term benefits.. I ain't one of them....

I'm not talking educated against uneducated but those with and those without mental fortitude.. Those with high mental fortitude might be able to cope with a life of drugs and no one but themselves would ever know it.. those with low mental fortitude will end up sat outside a supermarket begging for money..

Self medicate.... give me strength. engage in substance abuse would be more honest.. If you're asking me the root of the problem isn't drugs but mental deficiency of some sorts.. who in their right mind wants to take drugs knowing how dangerous they can be.. especially for the feeble minded of this world.. Thats the thing that ought be taught in schools, if your of sound mind, you may get away with taking drugs and live a normal life eventually.. if your weak and of unstable mind you will end up going down that rabbit hole and you ain't likely to be getting out of it.. If children could be made to understand this, the weak minded might be wary of or tempted to go down that rabbit hole.. on the minus side those of sound mind might be tempted to take on the challenge of trying drugs... but at least they'd be better armed against the worse of its consequences..

Every single one of them... and the one you failed to mention, the girl herself.

3 essential court appearances.... ha that made me laugh..? I'm left wondering in what order by timeline...