Haironyourchest

Sorry, just read the title of your post! My bad.

Ah the mystery chainsaw.....is it...a MS391?

Reading these posts leaves me feeling a bit shocked. Guess I don't get into "town" often enough......Is it a silly suggestion or would the final solution to this problem be mesh site hordings? No chance the public will make it past those.... I suppose its a toss up between risk and pain-in-the-ass. Would it be too onerous to erect actual physical barriers on every job? Im not being snarkey. I reckon if I had to contend with the kind of aggravation being described here I would feel it worth the hassle.

Thing that always puzzles me about innuendo....is which end does it go in?

K I get it now. I think you're absolutely right, it will knacker your tirfor cable, not immediately, but over time. The tirfor cable is metal core, to resist crushing, and really doesn't like being bent at sharp angles. I believe the usual forestry drum winch cable is fiber core and has more strands in it's composition, thus making it more suitable for bending under tension. Seems like you are getting a chain anyway, the only matter of debate is how to connect that chain to the tirfor cable. Well, thats simple, you connect to the hook. With a shackle or a master link. If the tirfor cable terminates in an eye - sans hook - then you just shackle onto the eye. Under no circumstances would you want to connect the load back to the cable itself at an angle, no how, no way :thumbup:

Wishbone Ash - Argus, used to spin the lp over and over. That was the extent of my music collection. Know all the lyrics. As a kid I was a few decades behind the times.......

Is the idea with the slider to the use the tirfor rope itself as the choker?

I just thought of something (that I did recently, not proud to admit, but at least I was aware of my mistake at the time) Could it be that the operator pinches the bar in a small branch, and then tries to free the saw by reaching out with the left hand to jiggle the branch while still holding the saw by the back handle with the right hand, finger on the trigger? I can see that being a danger to the left hand.

Don't you think its weird though that the left hand gets so many hits, when that's the hand thats always on the handle? When I finish a cut, and move around, my right hand may leave the back handle, but my left is permanently fixed to the front handle. The saw may move, and the chain may come into contact with my body or right hand, but no way the left. Im not disputing the data, I'd just love to know the reason.

I would be extremely careful to follow industry standards re. the assembly of your system, as you're gonna be tugging on it with a tensioned wire rope. If you rig up a heath-robinson and it comes undone....could find yourself in the "hurt locker"... So much great info on the web about chains and stuff, really addictive when you get into it.

My girlfriend had to leave the room 8 seconds into the second vid. She said her toenails were curling.....

Something that Im quite worried about actually. Must get some full wrap pants..... I read somewhere that the injuries to the left hand were from the days when chainsaws lacked chain breaks, all they had - apparently - was a ridged metal loop or some such thing, which would break the bones in the left hand in the event of a hard kickback. Or maybe the left hand stats are contributed to by guys holding and cutting with their top handles?

Buy one of those and forget about doing a solid day's work ever again!

Reggae music has always been christian no? Not bad, not bad, have to say, not really my cup of tea but I can dig the rhythm. As for the rapping pastor....OMG. OMG. OMG....what in the seven hells was that? Simultaneously cringey and cool. Jesus Christ is my nigga? If that video had been made anywhere other than the USA I would think it was a satire....but Well how bout this then - Christian Black Metal. Yes, its a thing..... [ame] [/ame]

Not sure what you mean bro. I read you worried about damaging your tirfor cable? I have a 1.5m chain, with a master link at one end and a sliding choker hook at the other. The chain chockers onto itself, then the master link (big oval ring) is grabbed by the tirfor's hook.

When are we gonna have an innuendo thread?

Ha, cool. Must have been a Freudian slip....the result of my childhood indoctrination no doubt. Now when I pump up my backpack s/prayer I'll sing "Go-SPRAY-it-on-the-mountain--over-the-hills-aaaaand-everywaaare..."

Quote from Joe "the woman nudging each other as they walk past" Joe your a gas feller - that post was almost poetry! On a par with the Charlie Chaplin's Great Dictator speech. If I had a million, I'd do a claymation comedy skit, A day in the life of a an arborist. I'd offer you the writing job.

Monsanto are a nasty bunch, but their invention (glyphosate) is good stuff. The recent UE bans and new regs was just more of the same quasi-religeous hysteria, which the politicians either share in or just cave in to... They were finding roundup in breast-milk and bread, not because granny sprays her gravel paths with it, but simply because wheat farmers use it to kill the wheat crop, ensuring it dries on the stalk thus making it more efficient to harvest and cure. They spray the potatoes with it too. Madness, utter madness. So banning it from the shelves of you local garden centre, making it illegal for Joe and Jenny to spray the bramble patch with it, is obviously the way to go. Still legal to pray it on our wheat, but not on the yard..... That's why I have no faith in the scientists and politicians. And a stockpile of generic gyphosate....but not Monsanto's stuff......

Or.....build a non-temporary shed within 100 feet of the tree. A Light shed, "permanently" affixed to the ground ought to do it. Going to need somewhere to store the wood anyway.....

So I guess the loophole is, for those with a big digger or tirfor, that while it appears to be illegal to (without the benefit of the felling licence, which obviously would simplify the whole thing) "Cut down any tree of any age" it is not illegal to "Uproot" a tree which is under ten years old. Uproot and move the evidence then would seem to cover it. The prosecution would have to convince the judge that the trees had been over ten years old. Reasonable doubt, wouldn't wash, unless they had good evidence, photos, witnesses etc. If one wanted to bother.......

Legal Requirements for Tree Felling The Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine advise that, under Section 37 of the Forestry Act, 1946, it is illegal to uproot any tree over ten years old or to cut down any tree of any age (including trees which form part of a hedgerow), unless a Felling Notice has been lodged at the Garda Station nearest to the trees at least 21 days before felling commences. A Felling Notice may be obtained from any Garda Station or directly from the Felling Section of the Forest Service of the Department. A copy can also be obtained on the Department's website. The requirement for a felling licence for the uprooting or cutting down of trees does not apply where: a) The tree in question is a hazel, apple, plum, damson, pear, or cherry tree grown for the value of its fruit or any ozier; b) The tree in question is less than 100 feet from a dwelling other than a wall or temporary structure; c) The tree in question is standing in a County or other Borough or an urban district (that is, within the boundaries of a town council, or city council area). Other exceptions apply in the case of local authority road construction, road safety and electricity supply operations. Penalties for illegal felling can be severe, ranging from fines of up to a maximum of €63.49 per tree to imprisonment for up to 2 years. In addition to any fine, which may be imposed by the Court, the Minister may, by Order, require the person convicted to replant. For further information, please contact Felling Section, Forest Service, Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine, Johnstown Castle, Wexford. Tel: (053) 9170371/ 9170338/ 9165534/ 9170349. https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/forestservice/treefelling/legalrequirementsfortreefelling/ I can dig up the Forestry Act 1946 if you like, but It's pretty well summarised here. But in practice nobody ever lodges a felling notice. Could be wrong, but never heard of it being done!

Pretty much. In non-relegious civilisations like the USSR and Red China they just replaced God with the Beloved Leader/s = same deal. If the world was run by women we wouldn't have any of this nonsense.....

Well good man to sit through that. I owe you 45 minutes of youtube time. Yeah, I think he's a bit of a gobshite really....but I'm not shooting the messenger. Ok he wasn't a founding member but he was with Greenpeace since the early days. As for the open mind thing, I think its a wonderful idea, but in reality we cannot practice it. For the simple reason that we would then spend all our time looking objectively at ALL the arguments, and all the origins and sources of the data to support those arguments. It just aint possible. At some point one has got to take a position, not necessarily for life and death (like a religious conviction) but just in order to function. Or take no position at all and be boring. I am waiting with interest to hear what transpires at this big summit. As for politicians and scientists having nothing to gain by pushing an unpopular agenda, well, I can't really argue with you there. In any event, we cannot possibly stop using fossil fuels, not in a month of sundays - just check out the figures - there's Nothing with a capital N that remotely approaches hydrocarbon as a fuel source for the world. It just ain't gonna happen. Not unless we can get moving on Thorium based nuclear power in a big way. Now, as you say, back to the Christian Bashing!!

Another great thing about the clones is they use standard sizes of wire rope, so if you do kink or otherwise knacker your rope its cheap to replace. Any proper crane-supplies place will have the right kind. The genuine tirfor rope is a little bit thicker than standard and horribly expensive and genuine tirfors are designed to only use their special rope.