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Buddy try googling sts drawing board springboard training or something like that it is for the sports but it as close as you'll get these days I may be wrong tho some one may have made a vid but it'll be stateside and more than likely from the PNW

The timby boys did make a training vid on the springboard ....it been a long time since I seen it tho. The notches are cut with an axe on it which will be a racer.....however you can cut em with any decent axe I use a jersey pattern. I can tell you where to get shoes and boards but they mega expensive as a compromise you can get things ya screw into the tree then build out from there hope this makes sense and helps

I do believe that alot of folks these days are very snobbish bout firewood (not any of you guys I mean customers) maybe it got something to do with the web and the shed load of books written on said. My view would agree with the OP also in times like these is it not better to use what is there than want the idyllic log. a bent bit burns just the same

ah the comp ones I take it your talking bout the timbersports guys? Mine are slightly different but principal is the same .......notch and sink ......I tend to brace mine and cross them. They can be made old time style with nails but the modern ones your thinking of (i think) are shoed lol it really a thing of the past now. as you'll know having looked for them they were used before the day of the chainsaw to get the fallers above the brush and root flare so they could cut the trees. I just use em cause I prefer them to cutting of spurs as I hate climbing lol had way to many close ones topping out lol

School marm I think you'll know it as a split leader??? The scholl marm term I'm not explaining lol I'll get banned lol just use ya imagination lol

I dunno the model but Mac did make em when most of the fallers state side used Mac's .....however as we all know the husky group bought them out lol. I never handled a leftie lol but those old macs were beasts but a tad dangerous as no chain brake lol but I guess the theory then was move your head lol

That prob the best idea as colleges would I think have industry contacts and maybe placements to

I'll try and get our eldest to send pics over if she can find em .......There nothing here that is big enough for a swing or hard etc to work......however there is one bout 60' or so with rot in one side low down. It a school marm so either I'll drop it in two haves from springboards or split it and then fall out the rest. It only 48" across roughly but it perched on a creek bank and with a slight head lean. Should be interesting tho. The other two I can think of are again schoolies one is round 80' and 60" across the butt with one of the leaders lying way out so again should be interesting to fall without chairing. the last of interest I'll have to cut of springboards .......All the others are small (nothing above 50' or 24" across so don't think they'd be of much interest.) and are the firewood I'm cutting for a friend (they all alders which don't really pose much probs unless y'all wanna see benching over a creek (please no I allergic to getting my feet wet lol). I should get round to them in a few months

seconded lol husky rule lol

This link may not be great but here it is .......my uncle used to get floored by hat fever so I feel for ya Understanding Hay Fever -- Diagnosis and Treatment

Where in |Canada land buddy they in BC ? What they saying bout the timber glut?

lol ya spelled dawgs right lol

I totally get what your saying bout the humbolt I only use it on really big stuff only really just to kep the fibre pull down and to stop the bull buck chewing my rear lol oh and being a scot lol you say gob to me and I'll think ya mean the thing below my nose lol or ya want me to spit on the tree lmao ......so there a thing I learned it works two ways.

Guys lol I am a SCOT lol just married to an American lol and live both sides of the pond lol. I am setting up a school on my return stateside to train fallers ......2 year course and all my friends will teach there and at there locations. there are a few legends left and I am sure I can coax them out as (yep being big headed here lol) they know I can walk the walk lol so they'll pass on their knowledge as an after thought......the BC timber glutt is coming to an end so the lower 48 will have to pick the slack......Gas prices are rising so the machine boys are starting to feel it......some of their machines use 80 gals a day so hand falling will rise again .......not to the glory days but it will return I'd love to take a guy from here back and school him then let him pass it on

I cut for saw, pulp and sometimes for veneer. If time is slack then for firewood which I am doing here for a friend at the moment. We will go back stateside as I am a duck out of water in my own country.

Bucking buddy is cutting tree to length before yarding .....unless it yarded tree length I'll try and get our eldest to send pics over as where I'm at there nothing really big enough to demonstrate on however if any you guys have somethiing then I'd be only to happy to demonstrate. I'm not even remotely trying to patronize I first posted and was asked what such and such was so I replied.......I always put in the I don't advocte thing as well back stateside if you say something any someone does it and it goes wrong well ya get sued lol I'd be more than happy to discuss cutting techniques I have cut east coast and west coast in Canada and a long time ago here. I don't mean to sound ott but I am used toputting a lot of timber on the ground in a day as I cut gypo .....nearest would be contract. We bid on stands to the main contractor and it goes from there. We at times have had a yarding crew up our behinds as we weren't quick enough. We aren't yahoo's and don't take short cuts (well none I'm telling y'all about) I'm not scared off at all I don't want to get in to an argument as it not necessary but I can and will defend what I can do. I realize here that there are way more constraints than I'm used to and laws are different. I did stick my nose into a training course just to see what went on and I was a little shocked at the tech taught I would view it as ok for small non com stuff but I'd seriously have issues with it being used for large scale commercial. It really seemed so well more based on sorry to say weekend warriors. I am fully aware there are very skilled tree guys over here and I'll be the first to respect them. I'm will never say what I do is the best

I'm sorry but I am from over here lol I only explained what was asked I am not and have said it is by no means the only way I'll shut my trap and just read it prob for the best as things don't mix, I'm prob better off talking to guys on the other side of the pond lol thanks anyway and best of luck

sometimes it the only way you can get them to move is by jacking but as you pointed out they gotta be big enough to get the jack in aswell as the back cut and face or it won't work lol and then red faces all round .......which I've had and ain't afraid to admit it either.....the secret is ya don't make the same mistake twice lol .......if ya do then a change of career might be needed lol

cool .....I guess there more timber falled by hand stateside than here now so may be more tricks used Buddy I've been falling for 30yrs and some of my friends still teaching me and I still want to learn The hard or step you need a large enough dia and a big enough tree to actually make it work ie. get the action from the trees natural movement. the soft too really but the swing can be used on smaller dias there are kerf cuts too but so help me they are getting to last chance saloon and circus tricks lol. I wish we had brought some of our pics back where I think there some of the cuts I described along with me jacking some which was real fun any well wet the pants stuff lol

There are 3 basic variations of the dutchman I know Swing, hard or step and the soft all really are a manipulation of the holding wood and the back cuts are slightly different as are the faces used. All are designed to cope with the heavier leaners head, back and side. I would not advocate the use of any of these methods to anyone as without proper knowledge they are dangerous. In no way are these the only methods just I guess the ones I use kinda wish I had shut up now lol please no offense meant

similar but the back cut a tad diff ......it easier to do as the soft dutchman can't move the hard one can. The soft one you can do with a humbolt the hard you can't as obviously it wouldn't stick the soft as you saw works better if your going against the lean .......the hard use more to turn or as I saw swing the tree. All regions of the US use diff terms and there a major diff in techs too and it causes major arguements as to who is right. IMO both have there fors and againsts it personal preference and how and who you falling for. The size and end use The humbolt does certainly limit fibre pull but on steep ground it not always practical or the safest

either that or it me walking downtown in my caulks hard hat and stagged pants either way she walks way in front lol

I will pass on stihl versus husky lol I brought my wedges back with me lol.......I trying to be funny with the "blacksmithing thing" it just a joke we used to use when we heard some one walloping wedges. As certain guys kinda have to wallop more than others, sorry didn't mean to be offensive

LOL is that why the wife walks 2 blocks away from me ........I always thought it was I walked slow lmao

You ever thought of the older muscle saws ie 2100 or 2101 they got grunt and will handle any bar you can get here. They old but tough as hell and you can pick em up easily enough .......well I think you can