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Because we don't let people become members who aren't suited to the lifestyle. Nobody is counting the hours you do. There is no one to count. Only us. We're all in the same boat. All trying to earn a living/run a business etc. We enjoy helping the people we live with. Providing quality food. Teaching others the skills you have etc. Some weeks I do very little. Others I do. loads. The other week I did four days straight logging to fill the shed(pics. Saw logs lined up by my mates botek while he was here too.). I may work 6 days straight on a job to get it done. Its very flexible,.

I appreciate it isn't for everybody. I like it. Lived here a long time. Andy is narrow minded in alot of his postings so shouldn't expect any difference here.

One of the real benefits to me is that I can rear pigs, grow veg etc etc, but I'm not tied to it. If I want to disappear for a month in the van, somebody else will sort those things out.

I did explain it. I said it was a legality. You can't legally give shares away.Earning potential comes down to how much you want to earn. Id rather spend time growing veg and rearing animals etc to be more sustainable, than I would working for the man and buying these things.

You make better assumptions than others.

You make assumptions too. None of us are lazy, unwashed or hippies.

As mick says you relate everything to money. Earning potential etc. I don't.

The problem is you have many misconceptions and assumptions that you have invented yourself. I don't lose two days earning. A lot of my work I do in the evening etc. On average I only do 4 days work a week though. Took me about 2 hours to do stew and dumplings for 30. Deliberately made twice as much as needed so can be eaten in couple of days.

Exactly. A cheap weekend away too and meet some interesting people.

The problem is you guess. Nothing like that at all. And no we are not squatters. We have mains electric and gas although most of our needs are dealt with through renewables. I don't work for anybody here. I work for myself and no one is counting hours. I just didn't this afternoon cooking dinner. That's part of my hours. Do you consider cooking dinner work? I spent this morning servicing the boiler and running a centeral heating test. Again not work. Just did needs doing. Later in the week I'll pop to the veg market. I some you go shopping and don't get paid for it? The tractor needs a service. The lawn mower needs de commissioning for the winter. All things I assume you have to do. Difference is I only cook dinner once a fortnight. When someone cooks dinner for me tomorrow I'll help wash up after. Again part of my hours. I have chickens to look after. Sheep and pigs is someone else. Logs to process, Veg to grow in the garden. If the roof needs repair I'll fix it. Etc etc. All things that benefit me with warmth, decent home grown food and meat The work involved all is part of the 2 days. I assume you do alot of this stuff as part of keeping house. For the record I split with the misses 4 years ago. My partner now lives an hour away. Which suits me.. I probably? have more private living space than you. Workshop's barns etc No Denial here. Would rather put effort into a comfortable sustainable healthy life than work to pay the man

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I wouldn't call it a commune. You might. That makes people think of group sex. It's an intentional housing coop. There is a 50 room house on the land. The £1 is to buy your share of the housing co-op. It's a law thing. Can't give a share away.

To be clear the co op is owned by the tenants/members. Buy a share in the co-op for £1 surrender your £1 when you leave,

The 18 acres is owned by the housing co op. The co op is owned by the members. Like I say its fully mutual. No owner. No landlord. No trustees. No group sex.

Youth can't compare that to a 15k processor. Handles would be easy to mod. Is cheaper than a decent chainsaw and a shit splitter. I think I could run it all day easier and quicker than I could crosscut and split all day manually

I don't think anyone suggested we didn't need planning. Would be chaos without. Just that the planning laws are all wrong.

I live in a fully mutual housing co-op on 18 acres of land. Pay £1 for a share. Live here fully mutually. Low expenses designed to cover bills m maintenance /land projects etc. No planners to fight although I see that coming at some point in my life.[emoji6]

Thanks

I don't have a landlord so I'm certainly not paying his mortgage.

Doesn't look that bad to me. I like the simplicity.

No thanks. Im good. I live here. So do my kids, family, friends etc. No desire to leave any, particularly my kids behind. I have no desire to get on the ladder and already done the fixer upper a couple of times. You seem to be under the impression that we should all fall in line. Move somewhere cheaper. Take our part in the system like a sheep until our desire is defeated. Im good for that thanks.

Can get a one bed flat in milton keynes for about 100k I think. Personally I wouldn't live in one if they were giving them away but hey ho.

know too many fathers that barely see their kids cos they are trying hard. My dad was one of them.Got to be a balance.

You come across now as having a small chip. Agree with some of what you said. Wouldn't get a single garage for 100k round here though.

I remember that one. But can they enforce the removal of patio and garden?