Matthew Storrs

Well WW hasn't been on arbtalk for 5 months so you may be waiting a while!

Rather like this, would you prefer to do 6 jobs in a day and get £20 each for them or 3 jobs and get £40. Meat will never die out, but these super cheap deals in supermarkets '3 packets of meat for a £10' aren't really doing anyone favours. I think meat should almost be a luxury item really (within reason, im not saying food for the rich!) but if people ate less of the poor quality intensively farmed meat they could afford the decent stuff, just less often. Just my thoughts.

Id have though all the more reason to agree with me! surely if people ate less meat (it was more of a premium product as opposed to a nessecity) then more value would be placed on the animal and it would be a case of farming for quality as opposed to quantity?

Yes and what with these housing estates popping up all over the place on prime agricultural land im sure we will become even more dependent on imported food. I love how this thread has totally derailed:laugh1:

All true- but I think the 60% figure could be hugely increased if a) people ate less meat (im not saying that in a hippy way, but its a fact) and b) if not so much was wasted.

yes im afraid its a case of not what you know but who you know, join the freemasons:lol:

I often see the new style transits (not sure what BHP) towing 2.8t mini diggers around. might be worth a look...

why won,t transit tow it?? they,re aren't really that heavy circa 1200kg plus a 600kg trailer, surely a transit will cope fine with 1.8t. Or what about an Isuzu grafter? Landy- I tow a 2.8t digger with mine (3500kg by the time its on the trailer) plus 500kg of attachments in the pickup bed- does it but not easily!

if you want the work and need to be competitive then really think the job out- ie could you get it doen in a day with 3 of you (will work out cheaper than 2 for 2 days) likewise if you think you will get it all down in a day, do you need another person helping you next day if your just moving timber if you finish at 12 on the second day with 2 of you unless you have another job to go onto you still have to pay the groundie the full day. It all well and good saying just put 2 days 2 men on, but you may not get the job if someone else is quoting and thinking along the same lines as above. Just a thought. Also if your not needing a chipper (presumably you hire one otherwise?) £500 per day for 2 blokes no chipper would be considered quite a lot down here. perhaps you can reduce the price a bit by not having the chipper- surely you can still make a good profit at £350-£400 per day if you don't have massive outgoings. It can be easy to be greedy and not get the job.

:thumbup1:that's what you want as your groundy:thumbup1:

no don't think so, Russians aren't my type:biggrin:

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Is anyone else getting the option to 'date pretty girls' and 'top Russian girls' on the right of your screen next to the adverts. Is this a new direction for arbtalk Steve?

that's far too much, I was thinking more along the lines of £199:001_rolleyes:

Easy, only you know what you want from a days work doing that sort of job. You'll just get answers from £200-£800 if you ask on here!

ooh im sure you can find a reason somewhere:laugh1: Do you know how much one of these machines weigh?

Same trailer I had with mine, built like a tank:laugh1: why have you cut the runners (that stop the machine tipping off the trailer) down?

You can do pretty much anything with a tracked machine that you can do with a wheeled machine but not vice versa, But if you spend most of your working days on driveways and roads why bother forking out an additional 10k... I really think that most tree companies working in cities mainly will benefit little from a tracked machine compared with folk who work out in rural areas.

True, but perhaps you really need the kind of work for a trackie to make it work for you, if 80% of your jobs is based on being on a roadside or on someones driveway, then you,d probably be better off with wheeled. Large rural gardens/countryside work/woodlands- tracked machine all the way. Im unsure of the latest prices but I think a tracked machine is near enough 10k more than equvilent wheeled, you,ve got to quite a bit of above works to actually pay for itself. Just being devils advocate...

I used to have a tracked timberwolf, and on many jobs we wouldn,t have been without it- tracking along woodland paths, pulling the landy out of the mud, pulling trees over, into back gardens, most customers were happy to keep the chip (we mainly work in rural areas anyway) Happily filled up my landrover and towed the chipper too, plus the trailer is good for carrying additional tools once landrover was full with chip. In short if all I did was tree work, id definiatly have one all over again, Am going to purchase a new wheeled machine tho now just for the convenience of being able to take on more domestic tree work, the only draw back to the tracked machine (aside from the cost) was logistical problems on small driveways and if you were only doing a small job it was a bit off a faff having to tow the machine all that way/unload find somewhere to put trailer, do job and then repeat. But this is a very minor problem compared to the benefits.

Bateson make trailers that can carry a shade over 2.9t, I use a ifor flatbed to move my 2.8t digger, trailer is 620kg stripped down plus about 50kg for the ramps. Just about legal!!

Crawler Tractor 90hp, 3pl, pto. with plant trailer | eBay Could think of many uses for this. Might suit someone very nicely:thumbup1:

Neighbour had Christmas carols blaring out earlier- what is the world coming too:laugh1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZLJTvkS3uo This would have been a better advert- what a couple of plonkers!

As we all know buying anything used is a gamble- sometimes you can hit the jackpot and pick up a really sound vehicle which gives minimal bother, keep it a few years and probably sell it on for not much less than you paid for it. Buying new is less of a gamble, you are more guaranteed that you will get trouble free motoring for a few years with good dealer backup, however the moment you drive that shiny truck away from the showroom you are losing money quickly. I guess it comes down to how much value you put on downtime, loss of earnings due to breakdowns will almost certainly cost you more than regular planned finance, but I think this is more suited to an established/busy business where you can support the finance better than the downtime. For new starters I think you would be mad to buy a financed/new truck (unless you come into money and you can buy outright). if work doesn't pick up enough how will you support the payments- and you will certainly loseout big time when you have to sell it, chances are if you are just starting out you will have time on your hands, if the truck breaks down you just have to push the job on a few days- helps if your handy with mechanics. Me and a mate both purchased landrover hicaps when we started out,(4-5k trucks) mine has been excellent and had very little spent on it other than general wear and tear costs, and its worked HARD. His on the other hand has been a nightmare and cost him £kkks in repairs of one sort or another, its all a gamble which most businesses take at one point or another.