Highland Forestry

Recieved this in the emails thisevening - thought I'd share it with you lot.. 1. Teaching Maths In 1970 A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100. His cost of production is 4/5 of the price. What is his profit? 2. Teaching Maths In 1980 A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100. His cost of production is 80% of the price. What is his profit? 3. Teaching Maths In 1990 A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100. His cost of production is £80. How much was his profit? 4. Teaching Maths In 2000 A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100. His cost of production is £80 and his profit is £20. Your assignment: Underline the number 20. 5. Teaching Maths In 2005 A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habit of animals or the preservation of our woodlands. Your assignment: Discuss how the birds and squirrels might feel as the logger cut down their homes just for a measly profit of £20. 6. Teaching Maths In 2009 A logger is arrested for trying to cut down a tree in case it may be offensive to Muslims or other religious groups not consulted in the felling licence. He is also fined a £100 as his chainsaw is in breach of Health and Safety legislation as it deemed too dangerous and could cut something. He has used the chainsaw for over 20 years without incident however he does not have the correct certificate of competence and is therefore considered to be a recidivist and habitual criminal. His DNA is sampled and his details circulated throughout all government agencies. He protests and is taken to court and fined another £100 because he is such an easy target. When he is released he returns to find Gypsies have cut down half his wood to build a camp on his land. He tries to throw them off but is arrested, prosecuted for harassing an ethnic minority, imprisoned and fined a further £1 00. While he is in jail the Gypsies cut down the rest of his wood and sell it on the black market for £100 cash. They also have a leaving BBQ of squirrel and pheasant and depart leaving behind several tonnes of rubbish and asbestos sheeting. The forester on release is warned that failure to clear the fly tipped rubbish immediately at his own cost is an offence. He complains and is arrested for environmental pollution, breach of the peace and invoiced £12,000 plus VAT for safe disposal costs by a regulated government contractor. Your assignment: How many times is the logger going to have to be arrested and fined before he realises that he is never going to make £20 profit by hard work, give up, sign onto the dole and live off the state for the rest of his life? 7. Teaching Maths In 2010 A logger doesn’t sell a lorry load of timber because he can’t get a loan to buy a new lorry because his bank has spent all his and their money on a derivative of securitised debt related to sub- prime mortgages in Alabama and lost the lot with only some government money left to pay a few million pound bonuses to their senior directors and the traders who made the biggest losses. The logger struggles to pay the £1,200 road tax on his old lorry however, as it was built in the 1970s it no longer meets the emissions regulations and he is forced to scrap it. Some Bulgarian loggers buy the lorry from the scrap merchant and put it back on the road. They undercut everyone on price for haulage and send their cash back home, while claiming unemployment for themselves and their relatives. If questioned they speak no English and it is easier to deport them at the governments expense. Following their holiday back home they return to the UK with different names and fresh girls and start again. The logger protests, is accused of being a bigoted racist and as his name is on the side of his old lorry he is forced to pay £1,500 registration fees as a gang master. The Government borrows more money to pay more to the bankers as bonus's are not cheap. The parliamentarians feel they are missing out and claim the difference on expenses and allowances. You do the maths. 8. Teaching Maths 2017 أ المسجل تبيع حموله شاحنة من الخشب من اجل 100 دولار. صاحب تكلفة الانتاج من الثمن. ما هو الربح له؟

Totally agree with you Stevie... the mog could do all the jobs we need machinery for.. I have reservations about it on a harvesting site though, mainly because i've never seen one on a clear fell or in thinnings which is what we'll be in, and never heard of anyone using a mog as a skidder.. Having said that.. nothing is impossible!

Thats the problem.. we'll be on different sites regularly so I need to find something that can cope with most terrains. The other thread about the MB Trac is interesting.... they look a good machine also. Cheers charlieh - i'll try and pick a copy up tomorrow.

You do like mogs dont you??!! hehe Would a mog be any good over stumps in boggy ground, on brash, mud etc? If I can get a county, I rekon i'll have to get a set of chains for it due to the ground.

I really need to go and jar him for some advice.. was asked today to pull my finger out and get a skidder so we can take on a long term extraction contract... as i'm doing the felling and prep anyway it would make sense we do it for them. Have you ever heard of alistair young, the valmnet guy near Forres?? Is he worth trying?

Not sure a county weighs, but would it not fit onto a low loader trailer pulled by a fast trac or similar?? The one in the eArborist classified looks good, 11k + VAT for the whole outfit.. Not sur ehow it would cope with the terrain up here but seems closer to the money than some of the kit i've seen in the last few weeks.

looking good tim.... nice work!

jojam - take me off your vebdeta list, nothing to do with me mate... that is truly truly crap work..... they should have taken it right down as opposed to leaving that!

wow!! I have spoken to the boss (my misses) and she rekons that she cant postpone her pregnancy so unfortunatley I'll be unavailable but I hope everyone see's what a brilliant opportunity this is and I hope you get some class applicants.

We all enjoyed watching you Tommy - shame the crowd was tight at the auction.

I couldn't possibly comment!

Euston is a 18000 acre estate near Honington, running through to Euston and out towards Thetford on the A1088... The estate used to be a little run down but in recent years has had a good revival - but as estates go they're not too bad IMO. Some of the estates up here are so tight... I wouldn't know where to start explaining!! Got your messgae David - I used to work in Suffolk before moving to Scotland, and am a Suffolk lad born and bred, but never did any estate forestry, I was more a keeper than forestry, but did do a stint at the EA FD and also for a local tree surgeon as a groundsman. You're right, dumfries is away way down south... you would love the forestry up here. Not so many hardwoods though.

Great to meet you at Carrbridge Tommy - you truly are an artist mate!

I know troston very very well! Used to drink in the pub there alot and had family that stayed near the gamekeeper a few years ago.

Which Estate are you on Dave? I grew up on Euston Estate. Fakenham Magna, near Honington.

Is he into shooting at all? That phrase is printed in the Shooting Times every week... I think it is a famous comment made by King Henry.... and of course, totally true.

Congratulations mate.... we've one on the way too, due on the 15th December - Seems like we'll soon have a nw generation of Arbtalk members on the forum..

They do seem to be a formidable tool.... Finding a half tidy one is not easy. Working on another angle now and looking at small crawlers with wide tracks..

Well out of my price range !! Lovley bit of kit though.

That Volvo has been listen on eBay at least 6 times that I can recall now - always at a 5k asking too... wonder whats wrong with it?? I bet it will take a fair bit of cash to bring it back up to standard... might be working but all the pipes will need replaced etc.

There is one up here which is rough as buggery and the guy wants 15k for it!!!! unreal.... Was even thinking valmet but probably couldnt afford one - should have bargained hard with SWB before he sold his!!

Anybody know of any for sale, prices etc? Just wondering how much I would need to budget for a county wth roofmount and forwarding trailer for a possible upcoming contract.... seems it will cost me alot to pay a local contractor to come in and do the extraction so I'm thinking I might as well buy one for myself.. Any thoughts?

That's the same for all of us unfortunatley

If you want to look at it in that way then yes.

Regardless of self-employment or employee, it's a job you got to do that you otherwise wouldnt have had the chance to do so that's a bonus. I'm not having a go at you in any way at all, but I have learned in this job that sometimes you dont have the opportunity to let feeling, philosophies or morals get in the way... drop the tree, take the money/collect your pay packet. The guy who ring barked it actually did you a favour in a way (depending how you look at it) So, all in all.. another day at the office