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I like that idea but there's many foxes ... I've heard Shropshire sheep won't eat conifers but will broad leaves whilst the Feild is mixed with some down as a Christmas tree plantation as we have taken it off grazing and planted with trees in an attempt to stop flooding, it Would be nice to stop it reverting entirely back to scrub and having to stop spraying around the trees.. I think geese could be worth a go though.

Is there any live stock that won't eat trees and just grass ?

Maybe he wanted his inheritance for a decent saw.. don't think I could watch that again.

Fresh or had it been sitting ? I had saved mine for a couple of years and painted and stacked out of sun light, I was at a carvers yesterday and he had some that was over 5 years old and was dripping wax on it as working it was cracking so bad!

Always have a little plastic wedge in the fuel can just incase and an axe behind the seat.

Thicker the better from my experience of cherry as it warps and cracks like nothing else I've milled!

See I was always thought the stem going to the rigging device always needs to be the higher and more substantial one to what I would call the secondary crane point which can be weaker but takes the first bit of load and puts it either away from the groundy or targets , I can't find any thing for forces but on the link it's very clear that it is the stem going to the bollard that needs to be more substantial and takes most of the load looking at the photos ..if you are to have two pulleys in a tree and the one that will take the more force.

Ben after doing a bit more reading especially of arrozdoce link I don't think it does I'm just talking bollocks ! Like I said I'm no expert on physics but it looks like it just side loads the stem so on a defective stem that's the last thing you want.. would be nice to have some more opinions?

You be beating steves 4 by Sunday.

I'm waiting for an expert to tell me what I'm wrong still... this was all I could find in forces and angles as the misses has nicked my rigging books ! The extreme angles are what looked like in the vid... Like I said last few dodge trees I've done I've tried two rigging points one with a tip tie so by the time the butt rope has ran a bit the forces are spread directly below the anchor points ... also brought a safe block as the safe block does not double the forces at the rigging point as your not using a base rigging point for when the occasion arises that is not an option or just for such occasion! I forget the formula for negative rigging but I think it tripples the weight of the bit being lowered? Also the OP is totally right that big bit to get the job done is not worth the risk unless you can be sure.. even then I've seen rigging points fail or whole trees split in half from unseen defects.

Clicky I'm no expert on forces and angles ! That's just my theory so I'll wait for some one to tell me I'm wrong which I probably am .. I recon though that if that top had been ran off a higher block on the spar that broke it would of been different also biting more gently on a running rope decreases the shock loading.. I'm very wary about who I have on my ropes when negative rigging.

The pulley to the lowering device has to be higher! I think in the case of the OPs vid it was not so it acts to put more force on that stem.. in my case I had one pulley but had ran the rigging strop through two crotches and then did a lower base tie on thicker material so it acts like an SRT base anchor which doubles the force in the top anchor.. in hindsight now I try and fishing pole the rigging strop with half hitches to a more substantial point and not directly to it... another way to work bigger trees and tops is have two rigging lines too on separate stems and tip tie one of them so you can drift tops and not put all the force on one stem /line. A lowering device at the base basically doubles the load at the top rigging point so on dodge trees a safe block would be another good bet ??

Hi mugs , I think another reason it failed and bear in mind your main rigging point didn't is because you had the second pulley in so effectively doubling the load on that anchor point , I did some thing similar and caught it on film my reasoning for doing it was I just needed to clear one side of the tree to fell it and there was no decent rigging point high enough on that side of the tree so I set up a double kind of rigging point on smaller stuff with the idea it would share the load and would be high enough to get the back top out with the intention of moving it down to a more suitable diameter for the timber which stupidly I didn't as I had another tree to get down and it was Saturday so it was a rushed job...like you I'm assuming at the time with the idea in my head it would share the load but I think what it actually does it double it like with an SRT base anchor and it ripped the lot out .. tbh I was kind of expecting it hence the one handed saw use so I could grab my hitch quick and bail out ! I've been too embarrassed to post in the forum before this mess but like you said if others can learn by it ..

Looks like it's been topped already ? Why not crown lift at least to keep them happy.

Fair play Paul. Remember to wear clean socks if you do !!

Damn right ... problem is they still could not do anything with out effecting some ones human rights they can't even have a war and kill the enemy with out ending up in court these days.

I managed 1.28 first time around 5 days ago and my back went in to massive spasm and after a serious back injury a month back I stopped straight away , just tried again and got 2.30 ... is there anything what is recommended for lower back core strength building to prevent further injury or should I just be advoiding doing any thing like this?

Not really ..... you clearly don't understand the concept of the New Testament and Christianity if that's the case.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222486477521 Game changer like , can't see why you would want more than 3 I only use 2 for most jobs unless you need traffic management or tag lining limbs that are far from the head groundie/rope man... I think a team of 5 chatting about what they did last night is seriously off putting and dangerous for a climber imo , if it's just you and the rope man you don't really need to discuss much else other than what's going on and he can direct the others.

Any way .... in ten years I went through 8 staff members building a business up ...I could not afford more than £80 a day for a groundy but I was never surprised when they left nor did I do any things to discourage them from bettering them selfs just always said if you leave please give me as much notice as possible out of those 8 only 4 remained on in the industry ,3 had already been in it so I guess just needed more time in it before deciding there next move but those 4 all are doing really well and I'm proud to of had a part in what ways I could... only one of those lads did I fall out with that left suddenly and left me up sh creek!! So my point kind of is if you treat them fairly and give them a bonus if they are due one if they decide to leave and give you plenty of notice and maybe even help train or give there replacement a few pointers it does not put you in a position that gives you sleepless nights and stress ! But you can never blame any one for wanting to move up or better them selves.

Is it your company mark I thought you worked for heritage? I'm fully aware of what's involved in running a company paying wages and finance and working late at night after a hard day doing quotes invoice and planning apps but will still maintain freelancing when You can not and have no choice as you need the money to keep a roof over your head and family and build a business choose who you work for really as there is nothing else on offer ! .. grass is always greener!

Grass is always greener , but I can assure you being a freelance climber is not a walk in the park... if there was more great jobs in great firms there would be a lot less of us.... seems as we are all so busy cutting each other's throats and keeping job prices down I doubt that will ever happen either.

Paying for your own kit, Ppe and LOLER working in a wider radious that usually meaning longer hours busting your balls on the jobs no one else wants to do or are incapable of some times with incapable ground crew , no sick pay or holidays how is being a subby easier?

Endless socket set and a normal socket set with a torque bar and one of those magnets on a stick... Copper mallet... oh and a decent set of Allen keys all are essential's I could not do with out.

Got him now !