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CollinsTreeGuide by Owen Johnson & David More isbn 0007139543 A damn good book imo http://www.bookprice24.co.uk/isbn/9780007139545

Hello Garry & Inz

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Hiello All Share links Knowledge is power ! As None of us know everything Well !!!! Lo:questionmark::questionmark:: http://www.british-trees.com/guide/home.htm

Hi dudes over on uktreecare forum they are discussing new names for the Arb Association got any I suggested 'treecare guild' or 'The Tree Org'

Arr! We dont mind Colin Whats in a name Lol , Welcome to the forum !!

means you conform to a set procedure & business standard that large companys look for when selecting contractors capiche'

Well to let you guys know Iso 9001 & 14001 prices range from £3000 - £6000 + assessment fees

We use ABc response for our training 0161 626 1364 [email protected] Very good & they will travel to you, if the numbers add up rgds iain

ive just got some new oregon saws in folding & scabard will let you know when the lads have had a play !!!

thought they refered to growth rings

my old job as a national transport manager was crap 140+ wagons that ran 24hrs 364.5 days a year running food from food manufacturers to the major supermarkets timed deliverys etc stress blah headaches blah nightmares etc no family time etc trees are the best work a working man can get, honest, hard, fun @ work . decent mone,y working outside, no office politics.

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1st an oak second a pop both TD's

cheers andy

if so try paying in logs, you need to get that bad boy under control LOL

Whos Used what & Good Bad Reliable Durable bought, leased, rented

zzr sorry m8, but your confusing your training provider( Capel ) with the assessment body (NPTc) two Hugely different beasts, lantra is the standard setter in line with nptc guidleines the trainer / college implement them totally independantly, although the trainers need lantra certification & assessors need nptc qualifiication although both work within the same perimeters Have a quiet chat with the tutor/ instructor.

Edenarb Trainers do actually hold candidates from assessment if they feel that they are not capable of the assessment Although ime For safety reason primarily, it is the job of the assessor to decide. although I do take your point, An outsider might argue that an independant trainer who continually holds back (what may be argued as an 'unusual' number of) candidates from their assessment, may not be asked back by the college as frequently as their piers ( I am not inferring or suggesting any such thing takes place, it just could be argued ) its simply best not to open a can of worms that doesnt need opening.

Valid points & no doubt an absolute mine field, It is difficult to cater for all applications , however Has a study been made of candidates background & intended application once competent & compiled a % of these fields, it may assist in the direction to be taken, forestry has been changed since the implimention of harvester & forwarders , no where near the number of saw operators, as once was!! So Doing things differently , giving split options may not be a bad thing, we could have additional bolt on sub units, that can be catered by the college / training provider, toward the need of the trainees, wether Forestry or Arb, this adaptaility & focus may give the candidate more realism & drive. I made the point re the academic & practical time scales as some do better dependant on their grasp & understanding of the subject at hand, Some are naturally academic whilst others good with their hands, as you rightly say there are real world pressures,tho they should not alter the standards. Well im a nptc assessor & I wasnt aware of cs 45 Okay i havent ever looked for it : ... but thats Great !!! I'm sure that that could easily be part of cs 30 31

it may also be valuable to move slightly away from the forestry product type elements or at least in corporate some more arb related or add some of the larger fellng techique (maybe just as an awareness )to the curriculum. Imo the information candidates undergo within the current 4 days inc theory technical & legal information & then they to switch to hands on workshop saw work & the time in with the trees can most certainly be daunting. in my experience some are adept at one or the other ,but once the saturation point is reached, down come the shutters. inaddition It may be worth while looking at a groundsmans cert as an addon to the basic raw related course : incorporating lowering techniques, some basic knots, hazard evaluation whilst working near a climber. dresing for the chipper setup of a working site signage etc etc that imo will be an advantage to the employer base you speak of. just a few thoughts rgds iain

puwer when you mention the review, I believe it should look at the course duration spread of days ie: workshop, thery & practical saw time. the ratio of candidates to trainer ?

a big shot & throw line for the big stuff

nutty the instructors arent from nptc, usually lantra, however not employed directly they are independant external people that have undergone & met training schedule & standards, although many assessors also train but work for the two different bodies !!! they will all have different styles of instruction, but the course content should be the same.

have you got sorted if not pm me, yr address & what you want, Cant say they are perfect as you maay need to add for your business service profile but not shabby either