18 stoner
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No shortage round here andy! I think its partially localised how much work there is but also what work you are after. If you just want contract climbing the pays not that good generally, but if you have your own full set up and on your own,(doing small prunung jobs, hedge work, half days etc) there seems to be plenty round here. A point that definately affects prices is the clientel- they are all different! Sometimes you can get wealthy ones that will pay, sometimes them that will not. Likewise, those that dont seem so well off can either be t**ts or give you the job just because they like you- nothing to do with price. Its a massive lottery, all you can do is decide your price, what you are happy with and run with it, BUT NEVER NEVER settle for less than you feel you deserve!
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For the spec, mine is a 1998 6in greenmech.
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Best piece of advice i could give to someone who has stretched to buy one themselves is; Service it regularly, never hire it out unless you are with it and keep it chained to something else! I have recently been subbing out at £280 per day with mine, that goes to show how much i value mine! Dont abuse it, dont let it be abused, treat it better than the wife, and it will pay you back!
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Came out at £3700 inc vat. That was with the gready boards, 3.5t upgrade, internal bed anchor points, spare wheel & bracket etc. What do you lot think to price?
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Take it the spikes are on your chrimbo list? Dont worry, just ragging you, i dare say a lot more guys on here use them than admit to it, but they dont post pics of them........ Take it nice and easy, and learn safe.
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Ok, started this thread a while ago and now im sorted. Found out about the atlas trailer, and it seems they are well built, chinese, ifor rip off. So, i ended up with this; Its actually a Graham Edwards 6`x10` tipper. I wanted it upgrading from standard 2700kgs to 3500kgs as i tow with a landy, so they built the chassis specifically for this trailer, upgraded axles and coupling. With gready boards it will carry 6 cube of chip. Sorted.
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nice ladders.............
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How much do you put into the business?
18 stoner replied to 18 stoner's topic in Business Management
Cheers steve, i dont mind. Pricing is a totally different can of worms to the reason i started the thread, but i believe it is still connected. All the things that concern me, such as breakdowns, servicing, pricing, invoicing, even such as being let down at the last minute, all have an influence on your final price, but it is that that the customer has an opinion about, only seeing what you do on site. I can only pass comment on how i view my own business. I cannot however, pass comment on any one just supplying contract climbing, but i am sure there is not the same amount of hidden issues i was talking about. Everyone to thier own i suppose but perhaps the issue of pricing would be more appropriate in the thread "day rates" started by bill. Cheers all so far for the input about how much goes into the business, at least it isnt just me!!! -
Hey Iain, dont you wish you could pop down to chapman motors and get yourself a subaru pick up? Eh those were the days, along with the fourtrack. Navara- the old one was a bit numb, but reliable. My brother has the new one, thats a beast with plenty of room in the cab and the back, but does look a bit in your face. Ranger- heard a lot of bad reports on build quality, economy, ride comfort, not expensive though. Not driven one though. Not seen any thing new. maybe they sorted them now. L200- good allround truck but really bad turning circle. The latest one is much better, but does look a bit wierd? Mazda- correct me if im wrong, but isnt that the Ranger re badged? Hi-lux- sold off the back of its name, has avid followers but i wouldnt touch one..... never found it good off road, bad economy not good at towing, uncomfortable, oh dear... Not been near a new shape one though! My long winded ten penneth P.S Im still running a landy- it suits me but does have some pitfalls
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Ok, just wondering how much "unpaid work" you guys all do. I have found in the past that a lot of people think that turning up on the job, getting work done in six or eight hours is all there is to it! The reality of it is for me, i frequently spend weekends and many nights servicing and repairing gear, for instance i spent three full days last xmas working on my chipper. Another thing is hidden costs such as insurance, mantenance, fuel, storage etc. But i guess what i am asking is, how do you explain to these people that there is more to it than meets the eye, or is it not worth bothering!
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Yeh cheers for the input mate, think ive come to the same conclusion as you, it would be a great thing to do if, you have little else to do, you wanted to live like a nomad, in the woods on your own, not have a care in the world, and most imprtantly not try to make a massive amount of money from it. Hope i about got it right from what i have learned over the last few days, its more a way of life and should ideally be run along side another forestry based lifestyle. Thanks again, it was a great read.
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Think i was sent here from proclimber-dont think i was really welcome there:lollypop: At least i didnt get banned there tho:damnmate: On a serious note, thanks for inviting me steve and keep up the good work:thrasher:
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Maybe did the lot with the flymo:151:
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Once saw someone cut a bank like that with a flymo on a rope and was swinging it side to side- looked great fun!
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"She was so ugly i didnt know if i should f**k it or fight it"
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Just found another great birch job, yet again done in east yorks and about ladder height- must have been one of those birch specialists:asshole2:
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Wow, certainly some goood info on that link treediver, not got it all read yet but found an answer to one of my thoughts in using tree surgery wood-; Qoute; Size, seasoning and stacking Lengths of 600-900mm (2'6"-3'), with a minimum top diameter of 50mm (2") and maximum butt diameter of 150m (6") are best, in straight lengths without forks. For efficient conversion rates, the kiln must be packed tightly with the minimum of air space. Because of the extra work involved, it's not usually worth splitting larger diameter wood for charcoal making. A more profitable use for waste wood of this size is to split it and sell it for firewood. Seems one of the very important parts is to leave as little air space as possible. I shall read on, and thanks again
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Ok, just thinking out loud here about those semi-retirement jobs.......... Does anyone know much about charcoal, like is it easy to make or buy a kiln, is it easy enough to set up, what kinds of wood needed and obviously is it a commercially viable option instead of firewood................
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very rare i climb with specs, seem to get in the way somehow, great for trimming tho
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Using sherrills own at the moment for hedge trimming (about £4 a pair) but never noticed a difference in manufacture on the sweat issue.....
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Jeez, Matty, just think how often i need to in those situations:151: Oh, and yes i voted every day:post:
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Yeh sure matty the pikeys seem to target birches for some reason round us- some the work is criminal. There was a bit more to the conifer job i showed in the pic, i wont go into it too much as i still get narked thinking about it, but i was trimming a hedge next door when they did it (a bit keen on the sides in my opinion!!!) then seeing me working asked me if i could take their crap away.... he even offered me £20. You can imagine the rest:BoomSmilie_anim:
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And a couple more, one next to a customer, the other next to my best mate;
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A very well done conifer reduction next door to one of my customers
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A row of "pruned" beech
