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2 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

I'm guessing May's thinking is heavily influenced by her husband - city types think a hard brexit will lose them business to euro financial hubs.

The Torys are porky snufflers - happy to use their intelligence to enslave the mongrel retards on a pittance and make them feel grateful that they 'created a job' for them

Labour happy to buy benefit claimant votes with government debt and make the workers bleed for their generosity

Whatever emerges each generation will find something to moan about

I mostly agree. 

There's nothing wrong with claiming benefits if you need them. I'd go to a+e with an accident. That's the whole point of social security. 

Sometimes you get people who extract the urine.  I reckon that the amount that benefit claimants receive is small fry when you compare it to the amounts of money that the Tories have allowed to be squirrelled away by their mates.

Politicians should be respected for who they are.  I don't see anyone standing up for the incumbent shitshower.

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6 minutes ago, felixthelogchopper said:

They can if they bin all the legislation on worker's rights. It will also be captive right here as the UK workforce won't be able to easily go and work in Europe.

They wouldn't do that...

 

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18 minutes ago, Mark J said:

I don't see anyone standing up for the incumbent shitshower

In part, to the previous outstanding response and in part to this Mark, purely my take on it but:

 

(a) little point wasting time / energy attempting to counter the misguided, jubilant celebration of the ardent anti Tory contributors who, appear, rather than to recognise that Current difficulties are indicative of the complexities of the situation and would similarly impact upon either of the 2 main parties, instead, choosing to make the circumstances fit a predetermined personal political persuasion whilst the opportunity exists. 

 

(b) Seriously - does anyone think Labour wouldn’t have made an even bigger hash of it? It’s almost like a mirror imagine with Corbyn as a life long anti EU (but strangely attracted to some of the socialist nationalisation concepts), the PLP broadly in favour of ditching Brexit and large swathes of the Labour voting public in favour of Brexit - not to mention a shadow cabinet of chimps, radicals and idiots. 

 

(c) whilst there is little to celebrate in the output of the government to date regarding Brexit, I for 1 am relieved that, as a small consolation, it’s not being administered by Labour. The phrase “careful what you wish for” comes to mind!!

 

(d) Farage has stated that he will consider standing for UKIP leadership again if this farce continues. Maybe therein lies the solution - or Tory MPs jump ship to UKIP so as to galvanise the government into decisive action. 

 

Theres no point trying to counter the misguided jubilation of Tory haters whilst there is nothing tangible to counter it with, better just to let it slide and recognise that whilst not the finest hour for British politics, it would be a whole lot worse under Labour ??

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37 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

In part, to the previous outstanding response and in part to this Mark, purely my take on it but:

 

(a) little point wasting time / energy attempting to counter the misguided, jubilant celebration of the ardent anti Tory contributors who, appear, rather than to recognise that Current difficulties are indicative of the complexities of the situation and would similarly impact upon either of the 2 main parties, instead, choosing to make the circumstances fit a predetermined personal political persuasion whilst the opportunity exists. 

 

(b) Seriously - does anyone think Labour wouldn’t have made an even bigger hash of it? It’s almost like a mirror imagine with Corbyn as a life long anti EU (but strangely attracted to some of the socialist nationalisation concepts), the PLP broadly in favour of ditching Brexit and large swathes of the Labour voting public in favour of Brexit - not to mention a shadow cabinet of chimps, radicals and idiots. 

 

(c) whilst there is little to celebrate in the output of the government to date regarding Brexit, I for 1 am relieved that, as a small consolation, it’s not being administered by Labour. The phrase “careful what you wish for” comes to mind!!

 

(d) Farage has stated that he will consider standing for UKIP leadership again if this farce continues. Maybe therein lies the solution - or Tory MPs jump ship to UKIP so as to galvanise the government into decisive action. 

 

Theres no point trying to counter the misguided jubilation of Tory haters whilst there is nothing tangible to counter it with, better just to let it slide and recognise that whilst not the finest hour for British politics, it would be a whole lot worse under Labour ??

a) Spot on.

b) I genuinely believe that Labour would make less of a hash of it.

c) Why are you so anti Labour?

d) Farage has never been an MP.  He's not really that good.

 

There's no point engaging people if they won't talk.

 

 

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I think there would be no brexit under labour. There whole party are just only interested in spouting ultra left progressive rubbish about diversity and LGBT and seem to care nothing anything even moderatly nationalist. I'm aware the tories destroy everything by selling it off or austerity-ing the sh%^ out of it, but i wont vote JC not because of him but his MP's. 

As far this brexit, I thought boris's resignation letter spelled it out well(even though a lot was wrong), too much self loathing. Its dreadful, i can't imagine what it would be like in tough times like world war etc Where have all the leaders in the country gone?I'm hopeful Farage comes back or Mogg takes over the tories. I probably will abstain next time. 

 

 Hope fully the footy going well will make them be a bit more 'we can do it'

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3 minutes ago, ostosix said:

I think there would be no brexit under labour. There whole party are just only interested in spouting ultra left progressive rubbish about diversity and LGBT and seem to care nothing anything even moderatly nationalist. I'm aware the tories destroy everything by selling it off or austerity-ing the sh%^ out of it, but i wont vote JC not because of him but his MP's. 

As far this brexit, I thought boris's resignation letter spelled it out well(even though a lot was wrong), too much self loathing. Its dreadful, i can't imagine what it would be like in tough times like world war etc Where have all the leaders in the country gone?I'm hopeful Farage comes back or Mogg takes over the tories. I probably will abstain next time. 

 

 Hope fully the footy going well will make them be a bit more 'we can do it'

Ain't it a sad affair?

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