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[sime42]

58 minutes ago, Oldfeller said:

excessive mobile phone use,

computer gaming,

internet chat room indoctrination,for sexual  predation, political agendas, and various other often toxic ideologies.

the encouragement to be something that you are not, ie; [insert alphabet here] not forgetting the various animal options too, and demanding litter trays and balls of wool to be provided at any place they deem fit,

life was so much easier growing up in the 50,s you were either clever, average or just plain slower to learn than everyone else.

 

 

I think we've digressed somewhat, from ADHD and Autism, onto other agendas. 

[Oldfeller]

11 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

I think we've digressed somewhat, from ADHD and Autism, onto other agendas. 

but all are indicative of the current themes the young are subjected to these days, hardly surprising there are mental problems, and various other manifestations of unbalanced behavior.

I'm 72 I was schooled as were most throughout my childhood, I cant recall anything other that boys and girls, I don't recall kids requiring therapy, or drugs, or special toilets, these are associated with today, and   now they have "labels" autism and adhd are but two such labels.

[Stubby]

5 minutes ago, Oldfeller said:

but all are indicative of the current themes the young are subjected to these days, hardly surprising there are mental problems, and various other manifestations of unbalanced behavior.

I'm 72 I was schooled as were most throughout my childhood, I cant recall anything other that boys and girls, I don't recall kids requiring therapy, or drugs, or special toilets, these are associated with today, and   now they have "labels" autism and adhd are but two such labels.

I am 72 also and I concur with the above . 

[Mick Dempsey]

Nostalgia ain’t what it used to be!

[Stubby]

17 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Nostalgia ain’t what it used to be!

Yes it fcuking is 😄

[sime42]

33 minutes ago, Oldfeller said:

but all are indicative of the current themes the young are subjected to these days, hardly surprising there are mental problems, and various other manifestations of unbalanced behavior.

I'm 72 I was schooled as were most throughout my childhood, I cant recall anything other that boys and girls, I don't recall kids requiring therapy, or drugs, or special toilets, these are associated with today, and   now they have "labels" autism and adhd are but two such labels.

 

 

I completely agree that the young are now subjected to far too many adverse influences. Social Media, Ultra Processed Food and pollution being some of the worst. Also, that we're now sadly seeing plenty of consequences of those. I grew up in the 70/80s and life was a hell of a lot simpler then. I have grave concerns about all the shit that my son is going to have to navigate through as he grows up. Not to mention the fcked planet he's inheriting.

 

However, I don't agree with lumping ADHD/Autism together with BS like kids identifying as cats. They don't all belong under the same umbrella. The former should not, except in extreme, cases be considered a problem IMO. The later definitely is, obviously. Unless you think vaccines like MMR and Covid are responsible for the Cat Children as well. 

 

 

[Oldfeller]

10 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

 

I completely agree that the young are now subjected to far too many adverse influences. Social Media, Ultra Processed Food and pollution being some of the worst. Also, that we're now sadly seeing plenty of consequences of those. I grew up in the 70/80s and life was a hell of a lot simpler then. I have grave concerns about all the shit that my son is going to have to navigate through as he grows up. Not to mention the fcked planet he's inheriting.

 

However, I don't agree with lumping ADHD/Autism together with BS like kids identifying as cats. They don't all belong under the same umbrella. The former should not, except in extreme, cases be considered a problem IMO. The later definitely is, obviously. Unless you think vaccines like MMR and Covid are responsible for the Cat Children as well. 

 

 

I'm an observer, with my own opinion based on my observations.

my observations have led me to the conclusion,, "never rule anything out"

you have my sympathy in addressing your first paragraph.

one of the reasons I chose not to have kids.

[Mesterh]

1 hour ago, Oldfeller said:

 

my observations have led me to the conclusion,, "never rule anything out

You would never reach a conclusion if you didn't rule things out though. Or, you would never reach a conclusion if you took everything into account. 

ADHD possibly caused from the increase in air travel for instance, or caused by the increase in the spread of Japanese knotweed. I know for a fact the first one will hold water with chemtrail believers 

 

 

 

 

[Mesterh]

2 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Nostalgia ain’t what it used to be!

Nostalgia is so last year!🙄 

[Oldfeller]

48 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

You would never reach a conclusion if you didn't rule things out though. Or, you would never reach a conclusion if you took everything into account. 

ADHD possibly caused from the increase in air travel for instance, or caused by the increase in the spread of Japanese knotweed. I know for a fact the first one will hold water with chemtrail believers 

 

 

 

 

The "causation vs correlation fallacy" 

I thought a few might bring that up,, you were my 2nd choice.