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[AHPP]

On car fuels, anything that adds a step, conversion, need to synthesise, refine etc is going to pollute. All the people driving to work to do those things and so on like someone up the page explained. Perhaps we should be using the rawest material available, like vegetable oil or heavy crude oil fractions?

 

If I end up doing more tree work locally, I fancy using horses and carts for moving heavy stuff. They smell nice and I'm ****************ing sick of road tax.

[Johnsond]

3 hours ago, BillQ said:

Got to laugh really, do the advertisers specifically target GB News readers with alzheimers adverts?

 

You do also realise that it is just their "provisional" figures?

Its actuality over that fyi

[Johnsond]

3 hours ago, BillQ said:

All academic really, you could never drive 800 miles in a day legally and its like the early days of change over from animals pulling carts to vehicles and all the technological problems that we had back then. Perhaps we need to try something different rather than say "We've done it this way for years and we shouldn't try to change. "?

Academic 🤔

170k vs 300k 800 mile cs 130 miles 44t gvw vs 28t yeah you can’t drive 800 in a day but you can certainly do a lot more than 130. 

By all means move with the times but the battery technology is not there yet.  Zero point in shackling ourselves with hugely damaging legislation until we have technology that can match the current set ups it’s supposed to be replacing. 

Edited Wednesday at 12:21 by Johnsond

[Johnsond]

Nigel Farage says first thing he would do as PM is leave the European Convention on Human Rights

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Watch Nigel Farage discuss ECHR, national service, first past the post, and more - with Lewis Denison.

That would be a good start. 

[Mark J]

1 hour ago, Johnsond said:

Nigel Farage says first thing he would do as PM is leave the European Convention on Human Rights

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Watch Nigel Farage discuss ECHR, national service, first past the post, and more - with Lewis Denison.

That would be a good start. 

Would it shite. It would be one of the very worst things that could happen. 

What makes you personally think it would be a "good start", and what would it be a "good start" towards?

[Mark J]

Ha!

Good news for Tommeh!
 

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Judges rule there is no basis to reduce 18-month jail term on health grounds

Tommy Robinson loses appeal bid after claiming prison is ‘making him ill’

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The far-right figure, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, is being held in segregation at HMP Woodhill where he is allowed four hours of social phone calls each day

The melt is allowed 4hrs on the phone a day?

That's a boot-ton of phonecards. 

Edited Wednesday at 16:15 by Mark J

[BillQ]

3 hours ago, Johnsond said:

Nigel Farage says first thing he would do as PM is leave the European Convention on Human Rights

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Watch Nigel Farage discuss ECHR, national service, first past the post, and more - with Lewis Denison.

That would be a good start. 

Populist politics 

[BillQ]

5 hours ago, Johnsond said:

Academic 🤔

170k vs 300k 800 mile cs 130 miles 44t gvw vs 28t yeah you can’t drive 800 in a day but you can certainly do a lot more than 130. 

By all means move with the times but the battery technology is not there yet.  Zero point in shackling ourselves with hugely damaging legislation until we have technology that can match the current set ups it’s supposed to be replacing. 

Every year we are getting warmer here on earth and it is our use of non-renewable energy that is causing it, therefore we have to get a scurry on or your grandchildren and their kids will see a tidal wave of humanity heading here as theirs turns to desert. 

[Steven P]

and not forgetting with that proven oil reserves we have about 35 years left. Keep using it as we do and our dying breaths to the kids will be "ha ha, you're fcked cause we used all the oil and never put anything in place to replace it, enjoy."

[openspaceman]

17 minutes ago, Steven P said:

not forgetting with that proven oil reserves we have about 35 years left.

That's about the same number of years as I was taught in my geography lesson circa 1963, much the same was said about copper.

 

Still I take the point  that, plus or minus a few decades, won't alter the fact that with homo sapiens having existed for a few hundred thousand years and worn clothes for  about a100 thousand years  the exploitation of these fossil fuels, and the changes to the ecosytem that have resulted, have taken a blink of the eye in comparison.