Making the news today....

[peds]

2 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

 

I saw that on the news this week - crazy stuff what they are doing. 800 miners (not sure if that was government figures in which case probably more, if the figures from the miners possibly fewer) trapped.

 

But not trapped, as one would traditionally understand the word in the context of a mining disaster...

 

Imprisoned!!

 

This planet... my God.

[AHPP]

Without the state, who would starve 800 miners to death? etc

[peds]

Commentary from the interweb, veracity unknowable:

 

"The authorities removed the unsafe ad-hoc equipment that the miners used and closed off some of the entrances, but kept open others. There's been a rescue team there since November, but the miners refused rescue because they were going to be arrested as soon as they left."

 

"They are saying that they physically can’t get out at this point. Mine is 2.5km deep and steep. Weak from starvation and lack of supplies."

 

"No way for them to get out thanks to our incredibly capable police force who didn't just stop supplies getting to them, but destroyed the equipment they were using. Classic South African cluster****************."

 

Several comments also alluding to the obvious course of action when presented by imminent starvation while surrounded by... meat...

[AHPP]

Wouldn't want any harm coming to them from unsafe equipment.

[AHPP]

This is the Speluncean Explorers for libertarians. Delicious.

Edited 3 hours ago by AHPP

[Johnsond]

48 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

But likewise, to ONLY bang on about Asian grooming gangs and brushing all other unders the carpet as it were, to ignore the majority of cases is blatant racism and making a political point at the expense of children being raped. Got to sit and work out where your priorities are.. is it racism or is it the protection of ALL children against ALL predators. I know and am comfortable where my priorities are. Are you?

How can you be ??

All of them should be dealt with the same. You deny the two tier treatment of child rapists happened due to racial sensitivities. Show me once where I or anyone else  who has called you out on your apologist stance has ever said said anything like you allude to, I’ll save you a bit of time SP they haven’t is the answer yet your answer to the industrial rape of children by Asian grooming gangs is to keep saying “ but whites do it too” 🤷‍♂️

Edited 3 hours ago by Johnsond

[AHPP]

Can you sod off. Adults are talking.

[Johnsond]

4 minutes ago, AHPP said:

Can you sod off. Adults are talking.

Open forum, freedom of speech so FU

Adult to adult of course 

Edited 3 hours ago by Johnsond

[peds]

4 minutes ago, AHPP said:

Wouldn't want any harm coming to them from unsafe equipment.

 

It does suggest that the powers that be know that there's only one realistic outcome, and that they've decided to force them down the grizzliest road possible...

 

At least if they had left the "unsafe" equipment there'd be something of a catch-22 about it, but to have removed one of the decision paths that ultimately lead to the same outcome...

What's the opposite of a catch-22?

[AHPP]

There's plenty of law (mainly around around murder but the themes can apply elsewhere) about setting up unsafe circumstances, performing intervening acts, omissions rather than acts, duties to help etc etc ad infinitum ad nauseam. The sorts of laws that prohibit you from windmilling your arms and walking in circles and it's someone else's fault if they become present in your airspace and get hit.

 

But if you're a state, magically those actions aren't crimes.

Edited 3 hours ago by AHPP