Making the news today....

[monkeybusiness]

3 hours ago, Steven P said:

That's the point though I've been making for ages... it isn't a race thing... white men are doing exactly the same, and in greater numbers in the UK than Muslims... but not a peep from the press or anyone. As soon as a group of Muslim men get caught doing the same thing, the papers are all over it, the politicians want to know and internationally too with Musk... and yet, for the same crime, nothing about White men. So to me it boils down to the press coverage being less about the actual crimes and more about a racist agenda. That is wrong, to make political points, sell news papers and twatterings off the back of crimes - only picking up the story when it can be directed according to the agenda that they want to sell.

Where are the reports of all of these white men grooming and gang-raping children in organised gangs in numerous towns and cities up and down the country? 
Sadly there are peados of every colour and creed, and I don’t doubt that many many white male excuses of human beings are responsible for this sort of horrendous abuse. I’m not aware of organised gangs of white men nationwide undertaking the sort of depravity that the Pakistani Muslim peadophile grooming rapists have seemingly copy/pasted across our nation though, and am unsure why you are trying to downplay what these animals have done (and no doubt continue to do to this day). 

[Mesterh]

Maybe google paedophile ring. Its the same horrendous crime but its just a different way of doing it.

My suggestion would be bring back the death penalty, and dont focus on one area. Dont divert all your funds to investigate the catholic church at the expense of the local paedophile gang.

 

 

[Steven P]

I think it was the BBC news this week, this might be uncomfortable reading for some of you. 

 

Something like 45% of grooming gangs in the UK are white, about 15% Asian and about 15% black. The others aren't specified. The data is about 5 years old - so the 2 biggies in the last couple of years might have skewed that figure. I think the study was about 1300 perpetrators (I'm assuming those that have been convicted).

 

And this is exactly the point. "Where are all the reports of all these white men grooming and gang raping children". They aren't being reported. But since Rotherham and Oldham are Asians then the more racist press, The Daily Mail and Telegraph ARE reporting it, Musk has picked up on it, the politicians are talking about it, it has pricked up an interest here because it is Asians committing the crimes in the news. 

 

Uncomfortable as it might be to you all, but grooming gangs are not exclusively Muslims. You can argue as much as you like, bury your heads in the sand as deep as you want but these are the figures the survey found.

 

The problems with this is that the press, and others, are getting away with their casual racism but also spreading a narrative around the country that the white man (mostly man) does not commit these crimes. If we believe that the crimes are exclusive to one segment of society we'll turn a blind eye to others - because the trusted press tells us this is how it is.

 

Out of the other grooming offences and crimes against children, Epstein is a parallel working closely with Maxwell but most of those who also flew on his private jet. I think this is the most high profile one I can bring up to highlight that it is not a crime segregated by race, religion or nationality.

[monkeybusiness]

16 minutes ago, Steven P said:

I think it was the BBC news this week, this might be uncomfortable reading for some of you. 

 

Something like 45% of grooming gangs in the UK are white, about 15% Asian and about 15% black. The others aren't specified. The data is about 5 years old - so the 2 biggies in the last couple of years might have skewed that figure. I think the study was about 1300 perpetrators (I'm assuming those that have been convicted).

 

And this is exactly the point. "Where are all the reports of all these white men grooming and gang raping children". They aren't being reported. But since Rotherham and Oldham are Asians then the more racist press, The Daily Mail and Telegraph ARE reporting it, Musk has picked up on it, the politicians are talking about it, it has pricked up an interest here because it is Asians committing the crimes in the news. 

 

Uncomfortable as it might be to you all, but grooming gangs are not exclusively Muslims. You can argue as much as you like, bury your heads in the sand as deep as you want but these are the figures the survey found.

 

The problems with this is that the press, and others, are getting away with their casual racism but also spreading a narrative around the country that the white man (mostly man) does not commit these crimes. If we believe that the crimes are exclusive to one segment of society we'll turn a blind eye to others - because the trusted press tells us this is how it is.

 

Out of the other grooming offences and crimes against children, Epstein is a parallel working closely with Maxwell but most of those who also flew on his private jet. I think this is the most high profile one I can bring up to highlight that it is not a crime segregated by race, religion or nationality.

Got any links??

[Welshfred]

8 minutes ago, monkeybusiness said:

Got any links??

Or Lynx?

 

Couldn't resist...

[Steven P]

1 hour ago, monkeybusiness said:

Got any links??

 

Yes, I usually have a reliable resource. Think it was this article I was reading:

Grooming gangs and ethnicity: What does the evidence say?

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Home Secretary Suella Braverman made several comments about the ethnicity of some high-profile gangs.

 

[sime42]